Citadel drops pre-meal prayer after VMI court ruling

Associated Press ^ | 08-16-03

[Guillermo]

They're not a private school, officially, because they take state and federal funds.

This is exactly the reason why conservatives should be opposed to school vouchers.

[Hacksaw]

The ACLU "saves" America from another "violation" of the first amendment. Hope Kilgore has success.

[Dante3]

I agree. They should pray anyway.

[PistolPaknMama]

Your old stompin' grounds are a' changin. :( Don't even think of playing Dixie or saying a prayer there. They're just training future "peace keeping forces."

[DoctorMichael]

This saddens and angers me at the same time.

Deliver us from this Evil, O Lord.

[ChemistCat]

I was raised as an conservative atheist, though I have since found a testimony that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and Savior of Mankind. But that didn't happen till I was almost 30. So I spent what is still most of my life as a non-believer who had to deal with people who believed. Back then religion made as much sense as killing a chicken and trying to read the future from the blood and feathers. When you are surrounded by people doing those things, however, it's generally wise to be polite.

I was taught to be polite when people were praying, sit there quietly, respectfully, and without any need to act out in any way about it. I don't recall ever being attacked by some religious person just because I didn't bow my head, too. A few times some people got pushy, proselytizing, but I have to say that my brother-in-law is more obnoxious when going on about his reloading hobby than any Jehovah's Witness or other missionary ever was trying to save me.

What is wrong with liberal atheists that they feel the need to SHUT THE RELIGIOUS UP? Conservative atheists may laugh behind their hands at faith, may even get hot arguing on a thread about evolution, but they are capable of being polite while someone else has the floor to pray for a few minutes.

For generations atheists didn't proselytize. They didn't feel the need to push their belief on others. What has changed that they feel the need to make no religion the state religion? For that is what is going on. "We will shut anybody up who isn't saying what we say." It's un-American and it's RUDE!

I have to say this. If you believe in Christ, it's time to fight back. Refuse to be silenced. If a court says don't pray, stand and pray anyway. If they use violence to try to silence you, refuse to be silenced.

9/11 taught us not to sit down and shut up just because some terrorist says so. What are these people but terrorists? They are crossing the line between merely despising us quietly and trying to snuff us out. WHY are we still letting them try to take the cockpit of this country?

I know and love many atheists who laugh at my faith (and love me anyway.) I am not complaining about them. I pray for them.

It's the Newdows who are the terrorists trying to silence my way of life.

[joesnuffy]

Chalk another one up to the ACLU
a minority of atheist communists dictating to the majority through
their kith and kin judges
How many fed & state court jurists are ACLU members former members or supporters?
This is no longer rule or law but rule of lawyers

[Hyacinth Bucket]

Well said, my friend.

[F16Fighter]

Maybe a giant neon-lit pentagram will appease the satanic ACLU-types who crave anarchy.

[l8pilot]

I graduated from The Citadel in 1977. I was in "Golf Co.", and we were the hardest of the hard.

My roomate, Mike Ritz, was killed in Grenada. I contributed for years.

My contrabutions ended when my "alma mater" admitted women, stopped playing, "Dixie", and waving the Confederate Battle flag. We should have closed the doors, when the uS said we should become co-ed.

I went back for my 25th reunion, last november, and my school was dead. Let's kill it. Let us remember the time when men were men. Close the Sallyports, lock the gates, until such time as Dixie is free and independant. I would rather close my alma mater, than see it perverted in the name of political correctness.

The Citadel defeated two battalions of yankee Marines, and two battalions of Naval Infantry, in addition to several Regemants of yankee infantry at Pocotaligo River.

I would dissolve my "alma mater", rather than have it polluted with the lies.

My School fought for Southern Independence.

The Citadel never surrendered its Colours. As a graduate, I would rather terminate the Institution, to avoid compromising its principles. Honestly, I would prefer that my alma mater, remove all vestiges of the flag of the united States, and display on the flag of it's country, South Carolina, and the Confederate States of America.

I would prefer the time of my youth, when Citadel Cadets flew only the Battle flag of their fathers, the Confederate Battle Flag, and the time when Band Company played, "Dixie", every time Citadel made a touch down.

And, I miss the time, when even knobs, had a moment of peace, when we said grace.

As a Citadel graduate, I am ashamed, that my alma mater surrendered on prayer, as quickly as they surrendered on the Confederate flag. It says to me,that the administration is no longer worthy of the Corps of Cadets.

For the Corps,

L.A. Salley

Lr.Col.,USMCR(Retd)

[Bigg Red]

We should have closed the doors, when the uS said we should become co-ed.

***
I agree. (And I'm a woman.)

Thank you, sir, for your service to our country.

My condolences on the loss of your friend, Mike Ritz.

[Dante3]

Maybe there just should be a change in administration. Things can be turned around.

Once we give in to bullies, there will always be no end to demands.