To: Dog Gone
If McClintock and Simon were real conservatives, they would do whatever it took - including withdrawing from the race - to insure a democrat was not elected. Somehow, I don't think they're really conservatives.
3 posted on
08/15/2003 7:49:17 PM PDT by
Those_Crazy_Liberals
(Ronaldus Magnus he's our man . . . If he can't do it, no one can.)
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
NO, maybe Arnold needs to withdraw instead of McClintock pulling out.
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals; Dog Gone
If McClintock and Simon were real conservatives, they would do whatever it took - including withdrawing from the race - to insure a democrat was not elected. Somehow, I don't think they're really conservatives. If Gerry Parsky and Carl Rove were real Republicans, they wouldn't have run Ahnold Schwartznegger.
7 posted on
08/15/2003 7:51:10 PM PDT by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
Oh, I think they're really conservatives. What I don't think is that they're being realistic.
Why Simon has any conservative support, I do not know. He's the Al Gore of the Republican party. Old news. He blew it.
Take some time off, Bill. Like maybe eight years.
McClintock is more interesting, but I don't think he has a chance, either. Not against the media monster that Ah-nold is extremely skillful at manipulating. Schwarzenegger has made it safe for Democrats to support him, while not making a single policy pronouncement. No other candidate could ever accomplish that.
I think a conservative California governor would have a short and unsuccessful term. Perhaps I'm wrong. But I'd rather see McClintock take on Barbara Boxer than seek this job.
12 posted on
08/15/2003 7:56:18 PM PDT by
Dog Gone
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
"If McClintock and Simon were real conservatives, they would do whatever it took - including withdrawing from the race - to insure a democrat was not elected. Somehow, I don't think they're really conservatives. "
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The GOP is pressuring them as well. And they are not listening.
GOP presses actor's rivals to quit. Leaders trying to clear the field for Schwarzenegger
San Diego -- GOP leaders are working overtime to persuade Republicans Bill Simon, Tom McClintock and Peter Ueberroth to drop out of the recall race to replace Democratic Gov. Gray Davis, clearing the field for action movie superstar Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Republicans are worried that the four big-name Republicans in the race will split the GOP vote and allow Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante to finish first in the replacement election, which would make him governor if Davis is recalled.
Simon reportedly went ballistic last week when Republican leaders tried to talk to him about leaving the race.
McClintock also is staying put.
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
If McClintock and Simon were real conservatives, they would do whatever it took - including withdrawing from the race - to insure a democrat was not elected. Somehow, I don't think they're really conservativesDo you think Ahhhhnald is a "real conservative"? Or is he just a liberal Democrat playing Republican to get elected?
I don't understand why socially Conservative Republicans would want a "victory" in this. It will just increase the chances on the "Repulicans" not even needing social conservatives in the future in order to win.
All they'll have to do is find rich, charming corporate magnates who could care less about the values of the former base of the Republican Party.
What do you suppose the odds are that GWB is going to push to get the two versions of the PBA resolved and signed? Or is he just going to focus on ways to achieve "victory" in California?
24 posted on
08/15/2003 8:05:40 PM PDT by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
If Arnold was really concerned about the stae HE would pull out and then an adult who can DO the job, McClintock would get most of his votes too.. then the state will actually be saved.
Everyone is ballyhooing about having any republican in office, no matter how offensive they are, but I can assure you, next election cycle if the Pubbie in office hasn't changed things dramatically, then it will be years and years more democrats. The ONLY hope is to put a (R) in who can change things around and then we have the next few elections in the bag.
35 posted on
08/15/2003 8:14:45 PM PDT by
LaraCroft
('Bout time)
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
If Arnold is a real Republican, he'll get out now so McClintock can win.
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
I am pro-life, pro-gun, pro-immigrant and pro-government. If you don't like America, you can leave. I can't see how someone who believes what you do could ever support Arnold Schwarzenegger, an anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agenda liberal.
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
If McClintock and Simon were real conservatives, they would do whatever it took - including withdrawing from the race - to insure a democrat was not elected. Somehow, I don't think they're really conservatives. It's early yet, and Arnold may imlode at any time, leaving us with no viable candidate if he makes an ass of himself. Seems prudent for them to stay in at least a few more weeks.
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
Well .. somehow I don't think you're a Californian - so what does it matter to you ..?? Ahhnold is NOT a conservative, so why should conservatives want to vote for him.
Also .. these numbers are a joke. Ahhnold is at 55%, while Cruz is at 22%. I don't know where the NYT got the numbers from - but it wasn't from Californians.
117 posted on
08/15/2003 10:14:32 PM PDT by
CyberAnt
( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
If McClintock and Simon were real conservatives, they would do whatever it took - including withdrawing from the race - to insure a democrat was not elected. Somehow, I don't think they're really conservatives. I think they are conservatives. Just very, very, very selfish ones.
141 posted on
08/15/2003 11:48:35 PM PDT by
Texas_Dawg
(Willie Green don't love them hos.)
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
If McClintock and Simon were real conservatives, they would do whatever it took - including withdrawing from the race - to insure a democrat was not elected.If Schwarzenegger were a real conservative, he would wouldn't have to worry about Simon or McClintock.
Arnold needs to address his problem--his SERIOUS problem--with social conservatives. If he insists on remaining liberal-social pure, he cannot complain about the lack of support from social conservatives.
176 posted on
08/16/2003 6:23:29 AM PDT by
Kevin Curry
(Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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