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Power Crisis Originated at Parma Ohio GM Plant (south of Cleveland)
Cleveland News Channel 5 | 8-15-3 | News Anchor

Posted on 08/15/2003 3:02:52 PM PDT by Petronski

The lead, breaking story on Cleveland local news is that officials at Parma's GM plant just south of Cleveland had a power anomaly which is now believed to be the initial source of the trouble on the Lake Erie Loop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: blackout; cleveland; factory; generalmotors; holdmuhbreaker; lakeerie; megazot; poweroutage
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No confirmation from other sources.
1 posted on 08/15/2003 3:02:52 PM PDT by Petronski
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To: Petronski
Said Lake Erie Loop problems cascaded through the Niagara Mohawk grid to all the other places.
2 posted on 08/15/2003 3:03:47 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski
That settles it then, It's definately George Bush's fault.
3 posted on 08/15/2003 3:06:50 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (If everything you experienced, believed, lived was a lie, would you want to know the truth?)
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To: Petronski
officials at Parma's GM plant just south of Cleveland had a power anomaly which is now believed to be the initial source of the trouble

"Hey Joe, I wouldn't plug another grinder into that extension - it might pop a fuse or something...."

4 posted on 08/15/2003 3:08:58 PM PDT by TexasRepublic
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To: Petronski
Good find.

But an "anomaly" at one place shouldn't pull down a part of a continent. IMO it's not this facilities "fault", but the fault may lie elsewhere in failing to properly respond.

Or the event was so strange it wasn't an anticipated contingency.
5 posted on 08/15/2003 3:09:04 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Yep, Ohio was a Red State!
6 posted on 08/15/2003 3:09:42 PM PDT by .cnI redruM ("My Glass is Gettin' Shorter, On Some WHiskey and Some Water" - AC/DC)
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To: Petronski
a power anomaly???

Like the Chevy VEGA??

7 posted on 08/15/2003 3:10:27 PM PDT by jaz.357 (The beatings will continue until morale improves!)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
However, the blurb reads that it was the plant officials who had the power anomaly, not the plant itself. Perhaps the officials were named Bush.
8 posted on 08/15/2003 3:10:27 PM PDT by Founding Father
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
I definitely saw the report and now know it is WJW-TV channel 5, the ABC (spit) affiliate in Cleveland.
9 posted on 08/15/2003 3:10:29 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski
Cleveland channel five has some text up:

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/2408583/detail.html
10 posted on 08/15/2003 3:11:00 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Petronski
Theory number seven in a growing list.
11 posted on 08/15/2003 3:11:43 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Petronski
GM is General Motors - not a power generating plant? What, a new problem with producing Crown Victorias?
12 posted on 08/15/2003 3:12:59 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy; Admin Moderator
Could you move this to Breaking, if you see fit. I tried to code it for breaking, but seem to have been in too much of a rush.
13 posted on 08/15/2003 3:13:28 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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Wow. Early yesterday evening O'Reilly had on some "expert" from Cal State Fullerton or somewhere who said from the information available he thought the blackouts originated in Ohio...this while everyone else was saying it began near Niagara Falls.
14 posted on 08/15/2003 3:13:36 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Petronski
I thought it was a squirel.

15 posted on 08/15/2003 3:14:27 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (No longshoremen were injured to produce this tagline.)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
I agree. Regardless of what happened or where, ultimately it is Bush's fault! I am envious of the Democrats since they can think so clearly and reach conclusions so easily, whereas most of us are required to do some thinking first.
16 posted on 08/15/2003 3:14:33 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: Shermy
Power Outage Started At Parma GM Plant
Connection Made To Lake Erie Loop

UPDATED: 6:04 p.m. EDT August 15, 2003

CLEVELAND -- Officials believe that a history-making power outage began at the General Motors plant in Parma, NewsChannel5 reported.

On Thursday, it was a chain-reaction event. In nine seconds, 50 million people lost power and even all the built-in safeguards could not stop it.

"It's one of those events that being such a complex system ... that could not have been prevented," said Professor Iqbal Husain of the University of Akron of Blackout 2003.

Husain said because of reliability and economics, the country is broken into three grids for electric distribution. They are eastern, western and Texas.

He said there are faults in all the systems every day, but most are caught and isolated quickly.

Experts are focused on what is referred to as the Lake Erie Loop that connects transmission lines in Ohio and Michigan and circling through Canada to New York.

Some said the data points to faults on transmission lines in Ohio, starting a chain reaction.

Investigators said they're focusing on a massive electrical grid that encircles Lake Erie, moving power from New York to the Detroit area and then into Canada and back to New York state. They say there's been problems in the past with that transmission loop.

The North American Reliability Council said it's not sure where the problem started other than the Midwest. Ohio officials had dismissed the group's prior claim.

WEWS said the council ruled out terrorism and weather. Officials are investigating whether a utilty broke any rules.
17 posted on 08/15/2003 3:14:49 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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Commander Data, run a diagnostics program on that power anomaly. This looks like the work of that rascal Q!!!
18 posted on 08/15/2003 3:15:20 PM PDT by Camel Joe (Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
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To: Shermy
Crown Victorias?

The Crown Vic is a Ford product driven by old geezers and State Troopers.

19 posted on 08/15/2003 3:15:23 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: GSWarrior
This might just be the "expert's" 10-cents circulating in the news media and fished out by a reporter eager to submit something by the deadline.
20 posted on 08/15/2003 3:16:08 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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