SUPREME COURT NOTEBOOK: Women, Jewish, Physician and Gay Groups Unite in Gun Case

Associated Press ^ | Aug 14, 2003 | Gina Holland

[mdittmar]

Now this would make for an interesting looking group of protestors.

[TexasRepublic]

Politics makes for strange bedfellows.

[adam_az]

Literally.... "Pink Pistols"

[toothless]

These people should just be happy they can own any! We can't have people suing to reclaim their rights when there is a possibility they might lose! They should just be happy with what they have!

[Paleo Conservative]

Literally.... "Pink Pistols"

I think I might be worried about their target recognition.

[chainsaw]

We can't have people suing to reclaim their rights when there is a possibility they might lose!

If they lose some members of the SC need to be impeached for not being able to read plain English.

[freedomcrusader]

I can think of only two votes on the Supreme Court that are a sure thing in favor of an individual RKBA: 1) Scalia, 2) Thomas

Rehnquist is almost a sure thing, perhaps I'm being too paranoid, but for some reason I don't see him as a certainty.

You can forget about Ginsburg, Stevens, Breyer, and Souter - they're sure things against an individual RKBA.

That leaves O'Connor and Kennedy. I'd say Kennedy leans to and O'Connor against.

I don't like our chances if a case goes all the way to the Supreme Court.

[GatekeeperBookman]

I don't like our chances if a case goes all the way to the Supreme Court.

I don't like what happens if the court rules against us. This will not be a pretty thing. Might coincide with Hitlary as prez. That would be THE test of the Union. I won't say more.

[mdittmar]

"From my cold dead hands."

[hoosierskypilot]

defended its ban of 75 high-powered weapons with rapid-fire capabilities.

But they allowed numerous other rifles with the same rate-of-fire capabilities. I immediately went out and bought a couple when they passed the law. The difference? A pistol grip.

A rifle is evil if it has a pistol grip. But a rifle with a conventional stock is harmless.

Idiot politicians.

[mdittmar]

Idiot politicians

Redundant

3. linguistics repeating meaning: with the same meaning as a word used elsewhere in a passage and without a rhetorical purpose;)

[pogo101]

From Ninth Circuit Judge Alex Kozinski's dissent from the Circuit's order denying an 11-judge rehearing of the 3-judge panel's decision in this case:

All too many of the ... great tragedies of history -- Stalin's atrocities, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Holocaust, to name but a few -- were perpetrated by armed troops against unarmed populations. Many could well have been avoided or mitigated, had the perpetrators known their intended victims were equipped with a rifle and twenty bullets apiece, as the Militia Act required here. [Citation.] If a few hundred Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto could hold off the Wehrmacht for almost a month with only a handful of weapons, six million Jews armed with rifles could not so easily have been herded into cattle cars.

My excellent colleagues have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed--where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

Silveira v. Lockyer, 328 F.3d 567, 569 (9th Cir. 2003) (Kozinski, Circuit J., dissenting from order denying rehearing en banc).

[stands2reason]

It's so sad that this is true, but in today's society, the gay group will help make the gunowners appear more mainstream, less "extremist".

[mdittmar]

However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

Stay safe,stay armed.

[ought-six]

I see it this way:

Certain For: Rehnquist, Thomas, Scalia
Certain Against: Ginsburg, Breyer, Souter
Swing Votes: O'Connor, Kennedy, Stevens

Stevens is all over the page on his decisions on any number of issues. I think he must flip a coin when he wakes up in the morning.

[sheik yerbouty]

It probably wasn't a pistol in his pocket. He was just glad to see him!

[ellery]

bttt

[basil]

We must keep in mind that by the time this is actually heard by the Supeme Court, there may be a couple of new judges on the bench, and a couple of the present ones gone.

There's no way to predict what will happen between now and when the case is heard. This would be true just about anytime a suit is filed. It takes a while to wend it's way to the top of the docket--and anything can happen to people which could change the make-up of the court.

[findingtruth]

Idiot politicians

Don't I wish! If they're idiots, how come they're running things and we're not?

[KOZ.]

if they were 'smart politicians' we'd be more screwed than we already are.
koz.