U.S. Offshore Outsourcing Leads to Structural Changes and Big Impact

cio.com ^ | August 13, 2003 | Diane Morello

[banjo joe]

There was very real concern several months ago when India and the Paki's were ready to nuke each other. Some huge companies actually warehouse their data offshore...

[Those_Crazy_Liberals]

"What a contribution."

I agree. I think this guy needs to stop feeling so insecure around women.

[thimios]

What exactly is evil about my comments? I happily voted for GWB and marched in Austin to kick Al out of Chaney’s house. Don’t question my loyalty to the conservative ideology.

I moved over 2500 miles to escape the RATS.

Now I sit in the great state of Texas and watch the middle class forced to hit the streets because managers have failed to do their job and blame American workers for their failure.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Your president is stabbing us all in the back and you complain about the shreiking from the wounded.

[harpseal]

I am really treally getting sick of your continuous flaming without any facts logic or anything but your Marxist ideology.

[Nataku X]

Wonderful plan!

[harpseal]

I think my favorite was Those crazy liberals stating I do not liek to dicuss facts or issues. He is a liar and a troll. He wants people to think he is a GWB supporter so they will actually vote for his Candidate Dean.

[N3WBI3]

Look I am sorry the guys over there are not more talented or imaginative than American IT workers, Those who can come here to learn, and those who cant stay in Indian schools of much poorer quality.

My last workplace was 90% H1B, very very few of them impressed me, one or two really knew what they were doing the rest were keyboard fodder.

We had one programmer write a C *FUNCTION* to change the sign of an int value! In this function he used the ABS() function, a couple of 'if' statements and some comparisons. Anyone who knows programming knows what a waste of processor time this is. We had to explain to him to just 'X * -1'.

Company’s don’t want talent in IT right now they want to save money for companies offshore outsourcing is a good idea, for America it stinks and our elected officials should do something to level the playing field for Americans.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Could be a rat in disguise, but some of the Bushbots are on the same level as Klintonites.
Would still be here cheering for their man if they had just watched him kill and eat a baby.

Personally, I thought the last election was the last chance for the Republic.

Looks like we've lost.

[harpseal]

"F**king disgusting. Yeah, you. You are utterly disgusting. To claim that criticism of the President makes one an enemy of this nation??? No, YOU are an enemy of this nation, because YOU oppose free speech."

You pissant brain dead Marxist totalitarian. F**king disgusting is for you a compliment. When and if you ever discuss issues you willbe answered on issues but the ONLY THINGS YOU HAVE POSTED HAVE BEEN FLAMES LIES AND INSULTS

[Paulie]

I don't like these goings on either. But I respectively disagree that Bush or any president has the ability to stop it. What would you propose the President to do?

[harpseal]

The time has come when these Free Traitors start with flames and only post flames hit the abuse button. Hit it for yourself or anyone else where you see abuse. Let it be known that posters like Those _Crazy_liberals who can only post abuse should be meeting the Viking kitties and get their ZOT.

[N3WBI3]

The federal government has a right to tariff but not to place income tax! How would I fell as a business owner who could not offshore without paying a tariff kinda like someone who would want to dump toxins in the great lakes but could not because of federal regulation.

BTW you never answered the guys question, why should we fight not to depend on forign oil but should depend on forign IT?

[banjo joe]

When I get laid off I plan on learning a trade...electricans, plumbers and air conditioning jobs can't go to India and the plumber last week wanted 200+ per hour to fix a leak that was going to take 4-5 hours.

Here's praying we're both safe... but I'm with ya. I plan on doing my own "maid service". Clean your house, apartment, office, whatever. You can make a couple hundred in day (cash preferred, thank-you. hahahahaha!).

[William Terrell]

Do the workers in India pay American taxes? Is the money they make spent in America? Oh, they may spend some on an American baubble or two, but how about rent, groceries, services, utilities and most of the things they use?

What sort of job do you work right now, Dane?

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

I'd have him start work on dismantling these ridiculously unfair trade agreements.

[RaceBannon]

bump for later read

[Tokhtamish]

Only a fool would choose to get a PHD in computer science or electrical engineering now.

So what does this mean for American technological innovation in the future ? When that engine is offshored, when the American technical intelligentsia is decimated, the engine of American economic growth will stop so bean counters can show a good quarter.

[harpseal]

See post #118 for a plan. Bush could come out tommorrow and announce the H1b visa laws will be strictly enforced and those who have commited perjury in the employing of H1B's will be prosecuted. he will ask for either a revenue tariff of 50% on all imports and use the money to reducew income taxes or he will ask for specific protective tariffs covering crucial American industries along with reciprocity in Americqn tariffs for those nations which have 5)% and 75% tariffs on American goods. he will also state that all illegal immigrants found in teh USA will be deported and anyone who helps an illegal stay in the USA will be subject to prosecution. he will also announce an immediate end to OPIC insurance and privatization of policies in effect.

[Wolfie]

Only a fool would choose to get a PHD in computer science or electrical engineering now.

I'd say the big 3 these days are Geriatric Caregiver (plenty of old folks who need their bedpan changed), Wal-Mart Greeter, and Millionaire Celebrity Entertainer.