To: HamiltonJay
It is a fine counterpoint.
The argument is that all is well with Arnolds choice because Buffet is a successful businessman.
His ability to make money has no bearing on the Ideology he brings to the table concerning the great unwashed.
Many Fat Cats make money in socialism and many use do it in capital markets. They still intend on socialism for their own people.
Buffet is a socialist and Arnold knows this, he also knows he must win a good portion of democrat voters to win. Especially to hedge against a surge by a Tom McClintock.
Buffet is bad for California and Arnold agrees with his ideology.
275 posted on
08/13/2003 8:31:44 PM PDT by
CyberCowboy777
(They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
To: CyberCowboy777
A surge by McClintock?????? You are joking right? Arnold is hedging his bets against a guy who doesn't stand a chance of winning?
Pretty obvious what and where your thoughts are coming on this matter. Arnold is the only canidate in the race that has a chance of carrying any sort of large numbers... short of say a sudden democratic outpouring to keep a Dem in power, this race is Ahnolds to lose.
Anyone here that is pushing Simon, or McCLintock or any of the rest of the pack, just really didn't learn didly from the last election cycle. Or understand this election. Up until Ahnold entering, anyone could have one by simple plurality.. they didn't need to carry any swing or moderate voters, just carry the majority of your party and you could win... so everyone and anyone had a chance... the Minute ahnold entered the race, that ended!
Dems sure didn't break ranks in their support for Davis because of McClintock... but the minute Ahnold showed up, the stone wall crumbled.... He is that much of a powerhouse and EVERYONE knows it.
Ahnold has changed the rules.. ahnold could in theory pull his votes simply from the swing voters and barely touch the base of the R party and still win by a landslide! Now Ahnold is a winning canidate, hes got the name recognition, and politics that can win in california as it is today. I know I know, hes not what one could call a hard core conservative, but you know what, a hard core conservative cannot win in California statewide today... someday that may change, and you know what if this recall hadn't happened that day would have likely been closer to happening than it will with this recall in place, but that's reality.
You don't like Buffet, that's fine, but reality is, California is how many BILLION in the red right now? Seems to me, if I want my house in order, I find the guy who knows how to make and handle money, not the guy who locks into ideology over all else.
The criticism of Buffet are largely weak at best... from you and others. He's not pro tax cuts.... well you know what not every tax cut ever invented was a good thing at the time it was proposed from a policy standpoint... case in point is that last round of $300 checks... what stimulous did they bring to the economy? None of any measure.... so while it certainly isn't a bad thing to get some of your tax dollars back, did it increase or improve the position of the nation economically? Verdict is pretty much no it didn't... So, hardly criticizing an individual tax cut is hardly proof he has no concept of how money or policy works.. The other criticism is that he lobbies for government funding and assistance for his business ventures... Oh No! A CEO who actually lobbies for public monies or policies to benefit his company?????? You must be joking!!! NEARLY EVERY DAMNED COMPANY THAT CAN GET THE ACCESS DOES THIS!!!! Don't believe me, go look at the tax deals at every level of government, or the funding used to subsidize construction or expansion plans of all sorts of business.... And to top it off, the fact that he does it, and has been effective at it shows he does have a damned good understanding of public policy spending... which counters the challenge that he doesn't.
I don't know where you or others like you come from, when you are building a company, or a team to accomplish ANYTHING you do your best to surround yourself with the best you can find. You don't go second string when building your team... so far Ahnolds got a powerful team, the best without question going in Cali today... Pete Wilson, Buffet et al... and only in the race what now, a week? He is surrounding himself with first stringers who will very likely be with him long after 10/7,which is a good thing.
So, personally I just don't see all this crazy attack dog nonsenes bringing anything substantive to the table. You don't like the fact Buffet didn't see eye to eye with BUSH on a tax issue... so what! Nation of nearly 300 Billion, and you gotta agree with the administration lock step or you are useless? Please. Show me something substantive that even remotely suggests Buffet can't do the job hes been picked for... cause so far I don't see ANYTHING being put forward that remotely brings his ability to do what he is being asked to do into question.
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