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The Marriage Strike - Why are men reluctant to marry?
Radiofree West Hartford ^ | August 13, 2003 | Wendy McElroy

Posted on 08/13/2003 9:40:36 AM PDT by ddodd3329

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To: 782gear
you never forget...NEVER!!!!!!! after thirty years of marriage to my mom,my stepfather can stillblow up after talking about the way his first wife took him to the cleaners!!!!!!!
201 posted on 08/13/2003 12:07:37 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: 782gear
you never forget...NEVER!!!!!!! after thirty years of marriage to my mom,my stepfather can stillblow up after talking about the way his first wife took him to the cleaners!!!!!!!
202 posted on 08/13/2003 12:07:44 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: fishbabe
Au naturel

No bra, no silicone
;-)

203 posted on 08/13/2003 12:07:44 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: MineralMan
Yeah, but actually I would be fine with the big piece of chicken and some lovin' from the wife. It is a rather simple premise for me, as I had pointed out in one of my initial posts.

Here is a serious question for FREEPERs: what is considered "regular" when it comes to the sexual side of an healthy marriage?

Once a day
Once a week
Every other week
Once a month

204 posted on 08/13/2003 12:07:53 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: redgolum
I once was slapped for holding a door open for my date. She said it was an insult to her and I had better apologize.

I bet she also complained that people weren't polite, too.

Right?

205 posted on 08/13/2003 12:08:39 PM PDT by null and void (Your LAST date with her, I trust...)
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To: ddodd3329
Frankly I don't understand the leaps of logic this author makes to conclude that a decline in marriage automatically means that men are the ones who won't commit. While I understand that the raw deal men are given in divorces would make that logical, it is not the reality I see around me every day.

Of the singles I know these days, the men are desperate to get married and the women are the ones who are holding back and not committing. That includes many, many divorced men. I am also seeing more younger men dating and marrying older women because the pickings are so slim. A look at singles sites on the internet show far more men looking than women.

Back in the day, marriage was practically essential if a woman wanted to be financially secure. Today, a woman can achieve financial stability without marrying. I tend to think the drop in the marriage rate has far more to do with demographics and other cultural factors than with men refusing to marry. It seems this author is using the decades-old stereotype that every single woman is single because she has had no other option.
206 posted on 08/13/2003 12:11:00 PM PDT by Truth Hawk
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To: mattdono
Semiannual?

And don't expect any motion from the other person, unless she droppes her nail file...
207 posted on 08/13/2003 12:12:34 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Tokhtamish
"The role of unemployment in the Divine Plan. "

Huh?

208 posted on 08/13/2003 12:12:41 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: redgolum
Who knows, maybe I will take the gamble.

Heads, you get 40 - 50 years of marriage. Tails, you lose your house, your kids, your retirement, your rights.


Do you feel lucky?

209 posted on 08/13/2003 12:15:10 PM PDT by FreedomAvatar
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To: 782gear; ASA Vet
You're probably both right. And, I suppose it's simply another outgrowth of the age old problem: men, who are supposed to be the leaders, making decisions not on the basis of what is right, but on what won't get them in trouble with their wives. C.S. Lewis was right when he termed males 'Sons of Adam'.
210 posted on 08/13/2003 12:15:27 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: redgolum
I once was slapped for holding a door open for my date. She said it was an insult to her and I had better apologize

Well I didn't get slapped, but many years ago (about 12) I opened a door for a lady going into a building (a courthouse) and she refused to walk through the door. She said, "I won't be a slave to you and won't give you the power by letting you hold the door open for me. You probably think that you can open the door for me and you will get sex. I'm a liberated woman and don't need you to open the door for me."

Dumbfounded, I stood there. Luckily, there was an older guy behind her that was being held up by her antics that piped up and said, "Hey, I'm not giving you sex either, but I appreciate you holding open the door...even if it is for some dumb b*tch."

211 posted on 08/13/2003 12:15:40 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: mattdono
We're going to need more choices. I'm one of the lucky ones - I absolutely adore/lust after my husband. Put me down for two to three times a week.
212 posted on 08/13/2003 12:18:04 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: redgolum
So whadja do after she slapped you?
213 posted on 08/13/2003 12:18:10 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: redgolum
"I once was slapped for holding a door open for my date. She said it was an insult to her and I had better apologize. "

Here's the apology I would have given: "I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I asked you on this date. I'm sorry that your parents didn't teach you about common courtesy. Finally, I'm sorry that I won't be able to see you home. Bye, now.
214 posted on 08/13/2003 12:19:21 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: mattdono
CLASSIC!
215 posted on 08/13/2003 12:20:36 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Quilla
Well, I figured that everyone would pipe up with whatever the frequency is.
216 posted on 08/13/2003 12:20:50 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: jjm2111
I've recently been reacqainted with my long dormant faith.

Welcome back.

217 posted on 08/13/2003 12:21:10 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: null and void
When that happened it was fairly obvious to me that it would have a large influence on children as they grew up.
As the years go by we are seeing the effects and the "crazy, right wing, christian, stuffy, conservatives who want to tell everyone how to live their lives" were right.
A entire generation is growing up thinking that oral sex isnt really sex, everyone does it and theres something wrong with you if you dont.
George Washington taught us to never lie with the cherry story. The husband of the big apple antichrist has taught us that oral sex is not really sex and it is ok for men in high positions to have young interns service them.
If you are one of the lucky ones you might even become as famous as monica. What a crazy mixed up world.
218 posted on 08/13/2003 12:21:17 PM PDT by winodog
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To: mattdono
As infrequently as possible is not on the list? For the most part, my theory on why men have sex at ALL after a certain number of years being married to the same woman is the same reason we occasionally do laundry:

Every once in a while you gotta throw a load in the machine just so you don't forget how.

219 posted on 08/13/2003 12:22:13 PM PDT by Treebeard
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To: sauropod
Don't read me wrong. I don't think divorce is a good thing. It's not good for the man; it's not good for the woman; it's not good for the children; it's not good for society. My assertation is that the whole "easy" no-fault divorce caused many more problems than it was supposed to solve.
220 posted on 08/13/2003 12:24:59 PM PDT by FourPeas
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