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man's penis removal was a surgical mistake(oops my bad alert)
abc news .com ^ | 8.12.03 | abc news

Posted on 08/13/2003 12:50:48 AM PDT by freepatriot32

Total Disbelief’ Penis Removal Just Latest In Series of Surgical Mistakes, But Patients Can Protect Themselves

Aug. 11— After 67-year-old Hurshell Ralls went into surgery for bladder cancer, he came out of surgery missing more than he ever expected. His penis and testicles were gone

"My wife had to hold my hand in the bed there. And she said 'Honey it's over. They got all the cancer.' And she waited a few minutes and then said 'But they had to remove your penis.' And I was one mad dude, you know," Ralls said on ABCNEWS' Good Morning America.

Ralls, a mechanic, says doctors never warned him or his wife that amputation of the penis and testicles might have been part of surgery before he went in for the procedure in November 1999. Ralls filed a negligence lawsuit against the Clinics of North Texas in Wichita Falls, and the doctors who operated on him. The civil case is set for trial Aug. 25.

"It was never even discussed. And I felt like he ought to have at least told us that this might be a possibility so that we could have talked it over even before he was admitted to the hospital," said Thelma Ralls, his wife. In a February deposition, Ralls' doctor said that he determined the cancer had spread to the penis while he was removing Ralls' bladder. Doctors did not send a tissue sample to the lab until after the surgery. A Dallas doctor who examined cell slides later found that Ralls did not have penile cancer.

The Ralls' case may sound outrageous, but for cancer patients across the country, medical errors are something they — and many other hospital patients — face with alarming frequency.

The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation reported in 2001 that 95 percent of doctors have witnessed a major medical mistake, and that many of them involved cancer. When Johns Hopkins reviewed tissue samples from thousands of cancer patients around the country, they found one out of every 71 cases was misdiagnosed.

Both Breasts Removed, No Cancer

Frank Barerra is another cancer patient who was the victim of an error. He was actually in surgery, about to have his prostate removed, when a call came from the pathology department — there had been a mistake. His slides showed no cancer.

"You can imagine — it was like waking up from a bad dream," Barerra said. "It never occurred to me that a pathology lab could just bungle a decision like that."

Last January, Good Morning America interviewed Linda McDougal, who was misdiagnosed with breast cancer. McDougal was given a double mastectomy at the United Hospital of St. Paul, Minn., in May 2002. After the surgery, McDougal was told that she actually had no signs of cancer.

"My surgeon walked in and said that she had bad news, and she had no other way of telling us other than to put it on the table. And that I didn't have cancer," McDougal said. "And my immediate reaction was, great, you got it all. And then she said, you don't understand. You never had cancer. And it was instant shock. I couldn't even react to it."

When McDougal appeared on Good Morning America, the hospital that did the operation offered an apology. Dr. Laurel Krause, a senior pathologist at the hospital said that two patient slides at the hospital were inadvertently switched.

"We deeply regret what happened, and wish we had made that clear at the time," Krause said. "At the time, Linda was very angry, and justifiably so."

But to victims of medical errors, sometimes an apology can't make up for what they've lost.

"I really felt like they played God and took it in their hands and decided to do it," Thelma Ralls said. "This is Hurshell's life, and my life. And to me they destroyed our sexual life."

Understand Your Doctor

Dr. Rache Simmons, a breast cancer surgeon with Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York, said that there are steps that patients can take to protect themselves. First of all, patients should listen carefully to their doctors, and all of their options and recommendations. If you don't understand your doctor, get a new one, she advises.

"Part of being a good doctor is being able to communicate with your patients," Simmons said. "If you don't understand your doctor, and you've asked him or her to explain it again and your still don't get it, find another physician."

Patients who are told they need surgery should also seek out a second opinion. It makes good sense, and almost all health plans will pay for it. If the opinions disagree, call your health plan and ask if they will pay for a third. If they won't go with your gut on whether to proceed with the surgery, Simmons said.

Once the decision is made, all patients should bring a family member or friend to a pre-surgical appointment to write down information and ask questions.

"I give out hand-outs and videos at my practice because, as a breast cancer surgeon, it's hard for anyone to be calm enough to take in all the information at the appointment," Simmons said.

Ready for the Worst

It is also important for patients to designate someone as their health care proxy before surgery, Simmons said. The patient-appointed proxy can carry out the patient's wishes while the patient is under anesthesia.

Before going into surgery, patients sign a consent form, which they should read very carefully before signing. The form will describe exactly what the doctor is allowed to do, and whether a doctor will be allowed to proceed if more serious conditions are found.

"It really boils down to a consent issue. So we as doctors can only do what's in the consent form," Simmons said.

Another important document that patients should consider is a living will, which can protect a patient's rights and wishes while they are under anesthesia, in case the unexpected happens. Doctors need to know what they should do in terms of extraordinary life-saving measures.


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To: exile
He needs the addadiktome surgery Rush is always talking about.

Perhaps he could talk to Hitlery and find out where she got her twig & berries from.

41 posted on 08/13/2003 6:07:27 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Remember Baron 52: Not all the POW/MIAs came home.)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

42 posted on 08/13/2003 6:26:21 AM PDT by mhking
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To: freepatriot32
And the worst of it came when he first looked in the mirror....

43 posted on 08/13/2003 6:31:22 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (40 miles inland, California becomes Flyover Country!)
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To: Kenny Bunk
I've owned plenty of hondas and plenty of fords and chevys. Never noticed a quality difference at all.
45 posted on 08/13/2003 6:40:32 AM PDT by fortaydoos
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
If it were me the doctors would be needing the protection in the form of a kevlar vest, and a Kevlar wallet.
46 posted on 08/13/2003 6:41:41 AM PDT by reg45
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To: freepatriot32
"This was the most unkindest cut of all;"

Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene II, Line 188

47 posted on 08/13/2003 6:55:02 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Kenny Bunk
I don't know if that is true any more. Maybe for Lexus and Infiniti. But lots of Toyotas are built in the U.S., and they still are at the low end of the defects-per-unit ratings.

Plus their are design-for-quality things that don't get captured by those ratings. Jaguar has good ratings, but don't tell me all those hoses and pipes and wires under the hood of an S-type aren't going to be a nightmare in 3 years.
48 posted on 08/13/2003 7:28:47 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: reg45
Yep, I'd shoot him AFTER the lawsuit.
49 posted on 08/13/2003 7:29:21 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Ronin
I am pretty sure I would be suicidal, to say the least.

After 6 kids, I was about ready to have it surgically removed, too....

50 posted on 08/13/2003 8:08:09 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: freepatriot32; dixiechick2000
error. He was actually in surgery, about to have his prostate

Warning for all men:
When having prostrate exam make sure Dr.
doesn't have BOTH hands on your shoulder
51 posted on 08/13/2003 8:21:11 AM PDT by WKB (3!~ ( You can hear it anywhere but only here can you tell the world what you think about it))
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To: Ronin
While this story lends itself to sophomoric humor, I can't imagine how I would feel if it had happened to me. I am pretty sure I would be suicidal, to say the least.

You misspelled "homicidal". Hope that helps.

52 posted on 08/13/2003 8:23:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: novacation
Sure you did.
53 posted on 08/13/2003 9:04:00 AM PDT by PA Engineer
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To: PA Engineer
DD
54 posted on 08/13/2003 9:48:24 AM PDT by novacation
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To: templar; Maria S; WestPacSailor
It appears that medical mistakes kill 7TIMES the number of people that guns do according to this site

if the image isnt showing up on your computer you cna view it here the life/death clock

Sources for Mortality and Firearms Usage Data (US)
o   TOBACCO-RELATED ILLNESS   Center for Disease Control (CDC)
o   ALCOHOL ABUSE   National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)
o   DOCTOR'S MISTAKES   U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
o   VEHICLE ACCIDENTS   National Center for Injury Prevention and Control (NCIPC)
o   SUICIDE   American Association of Suicidology (AAS)
o   DRUG ABUSE   National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)
o   FIREARM HOMICIDE   National Center for Injury Prevention and Control (NCIPC)
o   LIVES SAVED   Florida State University Criminologist Gary Kleck
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55 posted on 08/13/2003 10:16:00 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Heaven is weary, of the hollow words Which States and Kingdoms utter when they talk of justice)
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To: freepatriot32
It appears that medical mistakes kill 7TIMES the number of people that guns do

Looks like it's time to impose a seven day waiting period and background checks for anyone going to see a doctor. And we simply MUST ban automobiles. They are simply a menace to society. ( /sarcasm, just in case some don't get it)

56 posted on 08/13/2003 10:22:31 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Remember Baron 52: Not all the POW/MIAs came home.)
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To: freepatriot32
WOW!! Great find! Thanks!
57 posted on 08/13/2003 11:33:09 AM PDT by Maria S ("..I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end" Uday H.)
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To: freepatriot32
So what does he have down there? and how does he pee?

This is not the same as a sex change operation, because they make a labia, uretha , clitoris, and vagina out of the old penis and whatever. Therefore, this man has no vagina either. Also, it takes a very skilled surgeon to do this kind of thing, and only a few hospitals can do it.

So what is down there, just a hole? and is he continent?

58 posted on 08/13/2003 12:47:18 PM PDT by waterstraat
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To: freepatriot32
Surprised nobody referenced this yet:

Detachable Penis
King Missle

I woke up this morning with a bad hangover
And my penis was missing again.
This happens all the time.
It's detachable.

**background singing of "detachable penis" over and over begins**

This comes in handy a lot of the time.
I can leave it home, when I think it's gonna get me in trouble,
or I can rent it out, when I don't need it.
But now and then I go to a party, get drunk,
and the next morning I can't for the life of me
remember what I did with it.
First I looked around my apartment, and I couldn't find it.
So I called up the place where the party was,
they hadn't seen it either.
I asked them to check the medicine cabinet
'cause for some reason I leave it there sometimes
But not this time.
So I told them if it pops up to let me know.
I called a few people who were at the party,
but they were no help either.
I was starting to get desperate.
I really don't like being without my penis for too long.
It makes me feel like less of a man,
and I really hate having to sit down every time I take a leak.
After a few hours of searching the house,
and calling everyone I could think of,
I was starting to get very depressed,
so I went to the Kiev, and ate breakfast.
Then, as I walked down Second Avenue towards St. Mark's Place,
where all those people sell used books and other junk on the street,
I saw my penis lying on a blanket
next to a broken toaster oven.
Some guy was selling it.
I had to buy it off him.
He wanted twenty-two bucks, but I talked him down to seventeen.
I took it home, washed it off,
and put it back on. I was happy again. Complete.
People sometimes tell me I should get it permanently attached,
but I don't know.
Even though sometimes it's a pain in the ass,
I like having a detachable penis.
59 posted on 08/13/2003 12:50:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: templar
"I've heard that medical malpractice kills more people in this country than firearms, anyone know if it's true?"

Doctors kill over 100,000 people a year, thru accidents and malpractice. Guns dont kill that many. Furthermore, we are talking about accidents, and gun accidents are even less frequent.

Also, there are only about 900,000 doctors in the US, which means that 1 out of every 9 doctors kill someone each year. Far less than one out of every 9 gunowners kill someone each year.

Another way to phrase it statisically, is that any/every doctor will accidently kill someone every 9 years.

60 posted on 08/13/2003 12:52:15 PM PDT by waterstraat
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