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To: HighRoadToChina; yonif
China has also added to its EW (Electronic Warfare) arsenal with both new hardware and information warfare weaponry. China has purchased several Israeli made Harpy weapons. The Israeli Harpy can loiter over a battlefield for extended periods of time, searching for radars or communications radios, and then strike when it finds a target.

The friends we subsidize at $3 billion per year. Make no mistake, Israel is a US ally, but selling such weapons to China is extremely short-sighted. Yes, the article is about US supplied tech, but we consider Clinton a traitor for selling such goods to China. Israel would be a better friend if it exercised a bit more restraint and judgement.

11 posted on 08/12/2003 6:47:06 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Check out the J-10.
20 posted on 08/12/2003 7:14:30 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Big time Roger THAT. I am a firm Israel supporter, but they had better watch this crap. If we pull out they will be blown away in a New York minute.
28 posted on 08/12/2003 8:06:20 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Diddle E. Squat
The friends we subsidize at $3 billion per year. Make no mistake, Israel is a US ally, but selling such weapons to China is extremely short-sighted. Yes, the article is about US supplied tech, but we consider Clinton a traitor for selling such goods to China. Israel would be a better friend if it exercised a bit more restraint and judgement.

Well, without looking much into the details of the Harpy weapons and how they were sold I will say this. Overall, weapons which are jointly made with the US, and others, usually get American authorization before they can be sold. Take for example the latest news whereas the US removed its objection to Israel selling India Phalcon planes.

If true, it is not good that Israel sold China such weapons. HOWEVER, one must note the many weapons, money, and/or other equipment the US sells or gives to countries which are enemies of Israel. These include Saudi Arabia and other countries supposedly onboard with us (in the Arab World) against terrorism. The latest example is the Palestinian Authority and money we are giving to it to bulster its "security services."

Overall, Israel is concerned about American safety and opinion on equipment sales. It was going to sell China a radar system, however, US objection prevented it from going forward.

51 posted on 08/13/2003 12:17:55 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
unless they are also selling us the back door or a defeat mechanism... I would agree.

regardless... china is up to something REALLY no good.
they don't need all them missles for taiwan...
bigger fish to fry.
probably US
or India
or Russia... or whoever has what they want.
54 posted on 08/13/2003 2:21:43 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (winning is not everything... it's the only thing. if you don't win, you cannot govern.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Israel would be a better friend if it exercised a bit more restraint and judgement."

True.

Although, friendship works, or should work, both ways.

When was the last time China, a large state (not sharing a border with the USA, a large state) attacked the USA? When was the last time Egypt, a medium sized state (sharing a border with Israel, a small state)attacked or attempted to attack Israel? (1948, 1967, 1973).

Israel has apparently sold an armed drone to China acrording to this report. And has according to other reports sold advanced avionics to China.

Yet the USA has sold Apache attack helicopters, M1Al Abrams tanks, F-16C fighter jets, missile frigates, advanced Harpoon missiles that can be used to attack land targets in a "cruise missile" role, to Egypt.

Saudi Arabia funds Hamas and Islamic Jihad which murder Israelis citizens on a weekly basis. Yet the USA has sold to Saudi Arabia: F-15 fighter jets, plus a downgraded version of the F-15E fighter/strike jet, Apaches, M1A2 tanks and much more.

Works both ways, not so?
Hmmmmmmm.

55 posted on 08/13/2003 4:49:49 AM PDT by Scubes
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