[JohnHuang2]

Tuesday, August 12, 2003

Quote of the Day by MEG33

[JohnHuang2]

Nudging this your way, amigo..

[StatesEnemy]

What's the problem?

We're a global economy now, you silly rabbits!

[risk]

We've been hearing about the move of Magnequench's mfg. to China for a while now, maybe since Clinton was in office. I'm surprised that nothing's been done yet.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

What's wrong with the employees getting a low-interest loan and forming their own company to compete with the Chinese?

Let's show some American ingenuity for a change.

They already know the business!

I'm sure that French-looking rich guy, Senator Kerry would loan them some start-up cash!

[RaceBannon]

More information than before on this bump

[metesky]

If (when) the fit really hits the shan, we're cooked.

[harpseal]

The DoD statement also said, "Nor has China cornered the manufacturing market for such magnets, as numerous alternate suppliers exist (40 percent of world production in Japan, 5.8 percent in the U.S., and 4.8 percent in Europe). Additionally, there are substitute materials for these components available from other sources. "

On th e thread that was pulled the other day it was pointed out that just about every substitute to Magnaquench's products does not do the job anywhere near as well. I owuld have posted the reference but the thread got pulled after over a hundred replies. No reason was given.

[harpseal]

May we please keep this thread on this subject. The last thread on this subject was pulled (no reason given) after over a hundred replies. There was a great deal of useful information on that prior thread hopewfully this will garner as much.

[A. Pole]

Until 1998, there were essentially two active mines in the world producing rare earths for the exotic magnets – the Molycorp mine in Mountain Pass, Calif., and China's Baotou mine.
[...]
The year after the U.S. mine shutdown, China met 88 percent of the world demand for rare earths.
[...]
"It's just the natural evolution of technology and manufacturing driven by raw materials," he told WND, referring to China's low labor costs and abundance of rare-earth materials.
[...]
Companies must establish some sort of China capability to remain profitable.

"The whole magnet industry is seeing these types of pressures," he said. "It's a very difficult equation."

Free trade bump.

[RadioAstronomer]

Hmmmmmm......

From here:

http://www.manufacturingtalk.com/news/mag/mag102.html

Additional equipment to meet demand for rare earth permanent magnets cut to close tolerances has been installed at Magnequench's new UK factory.

That was from approximately 1.5 years ago.

Also look here:

http://www.magnequench.com/tech_resources/index.htm

"The Technology Center is a 30,000 sq. ft. laboratory, built in 1999 specifically to meet the needs of Magnequench's clients for neodymium-iron-boron powders, magnets, and added-value components. A client can present his requirement for an optimum magnetic device design, for a magnet assembly, or for a challenging new material specification, and expect a complete solution from within this self-contained facility. He can even stay here and work alongside the Technology Center staff as his problem is solved."

"Magnequench selected the Raleigh/Durham region of North Carolina for its proximity to major industrial centers worldwide, allowing easy access for clients. The Southern climate and its consequent lifestyle has also allowed the Technology Center to attract some of the world's best magnet scientists and engineers. Because this region is a national center of excellence for science and technology, the Technology Center is able to draw upon considerable local resources to augment its own capabilities."

"The Technology Center is a unique, world-class engineering resource for the design and development of neodymium-iron-boron alloys, powders, compounds, magnets, production processes, permanent magnet components and devices. Having attracted some of the world's best permanent magnet scientists and engineers, and provided them with the latest process equipment and analytical tools, the Technology Center has everything in-house needed to provide a client with the optimum powder, magnet or added-value component."

Also look here:

http://www.magnequench.com/mag_news/releases/letter%20to%20president0429.pdf

The Anderson plant was permanently closed by April 29, 2002

[thackney]

cool magnets, lousy politician, job lose, scary Chinese ping

[squidly]

Let it go. I'm more of a carpet bombing/napalm fan myself, anyway.

[Dead Dog]

Operation Sumbeam anyone?


Russia Darkening Into A Tragic Phase?


by J.R. Nyquist, Worldnet Daily, May 8, 2000

Yesterday Vladimir Putin officially began his term as Russia's second elected president. Officially Putin is not a Communist, but unofficially he admires Lenin and has a good opinion of the KGB. What have we learned about Putin since Boris Yeltsin appointed him as acting Russian president?

According to Putin's inauguration speech, Russian history has light phases and tragic phases. The heavy-drinking Yeltsin provided Russia with a light phase after the long and humorless Soviet era. Yeltsin was a man who wrote in his memoirs of breast-feeding his own daughter while riding on a train. There was no milk in Yeltsin's breast, but the baby girl felt comforted anyway -- and it kept her quiet.

Now things in Russia are different. The empty comfort of a liberalism without milk, without substance, is no longer offered. The new Russian president wants to strengthen the security services and the Army. He is tough and serious. The facade of phony liberalism has been torn away. A stiff and humorless little man from the bowels of the KGB now takes power. There is nothing funny about Mr. Putin. In fact, he was once nicknamed the "little Andropov" (after the late KGB chief and one-time Soviet dictator).

Putin came from Leningrad, which is now called St. Petersburg. After graduating college Putin joined the KGB. Then he was sent as a spy to West Germany in 1975. Before the 1970s ended, Putin fell under suspicion of espionage and was booted from West Germany. A few years later, in 1984, Putin was sent to East Germany. For several years prior to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall, Putin worked on a secret project called Operation Sunbeam.

According to Horst Jemlich, a thirty year veteran of the East German secret police, Operation Sunbeam anticipated the collapse of the Warsaw Pact -- Russia's East European military alliance. Last January Jemlich told the London Sunday Times (Jan. 16) that the plan was "to prepare one day to let us fall and have new guys supply them [the KGB] with information."

According to Jemlich, the Russian Communists planned to abandon their German comrades. The overt Communist structures in East Germany would be replaced with covert KGB structures. Once the secret structures were in place, the Kremlin's German pawn would be offered to the West.

It was not a happy fate for the pawn. Coincidentally, in the same year that Vladimir Putin joined Operation Sunbeam, KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the future liberalization of the Soviet bloc. Golitsyn said that the liberalization "would be spectacular and impressive." But, he warned, it "would be calculated and deceptive in that it would be introduced from above." Jemlich's testimony indirectly supports Golitsyn's testimony. The collapse of Communism in Eastern Europe was conceived beforehand by planners in Moscow. It was part of a grand strategy. And Putin had a leading role in preparing that strategy.

In 1982 another defector, named Jan Sejna, wrote about a long range Russian strategy that involved the fake collapse of the Warsaw Pact alliance. He wrote of Russia's plan to erode NATO. He wrote of "progressive" or left wing governments coming to power in Europe. "To this end," wrote Sejna, "we envisaged that it might be necessary to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, in which event we had already prepared a web of bilateral defense arrangements, to be supervised by secret committees of Comecon."

The leaders of the West have yet to understand the significance of Sejna's statement about the fake dissolution of the Warsaw Pact. Americans and West Europeans are far from grasping the truth in Golitsyn's 1984 statement that the Kremlin was contemplating the demolition of the Berlin Wall. As Horst Jemlich suggested in his statement to the Times, Operation Sunbeam was initiated with the collapse of East Germany in mind. The KGB, however, was not giving up. It was creating an alternate channel to continue operations against the West under cover of a supposed Cold War defeat.

In all probability Vladimir Putin is still an agent of the KGB -- and still following a secret plan that will culminate in the defeat of the United States.

Putin's rise to power is no accident. His elevation to Russia's presidency was accomplished by intrigue. His popularity was created through a war crisis called into existence by Moscow's double agents in Chechnya and Dagestan. Yeltsin's sudden resignation at the end of last year meant that an early presidential election would be held, before the Russian people could catch their breath. Opposing candidates were not given time to prepare their campaigns. The votes were not counted properly. The entire process was fraudulent, but the West never protested. Putin's legitimacy has been accepted in Washington, London, Paris and Berlin.

Putin was chosen by somebody, and elevated by somebody -- for a reason. And it is significant that he comes from Leningrad, which is known as Russia's most "reactionary city." According to Vladimir Solovyov and Elena Klepikova, writing in their biography of Yuri Andropov, Leningrad was "the proving ground of the KGB, where all its undertakings and experiments are pioneered -- under the complete control of the Soviet police."

It is also significant that Putin has been called the "little Andropov." It is noteworthy that Andropov's publicized traits coincided with Lenin's canonical traits: efficiency, personal modesty, simplicity, seriousness and a knowledge of foreign languages. These are traits that have been assigned to Putin.

The current grand strategy of Russia now comes into full view. It is a program of sly restoration and re-strengthening. The West has sold Russia the rope, so to speak. And the rope will be used to hang the world's bourgeoisie (i.e., the American middle class). To facilitate this process Putin's first major act as president of Russia was to name Mikhail Kasyanov as prime minister. Kasyanov is the Kremlin's chief economic strategist. He has been responsible for negotiating with Russia's creditors in the West.

Perhaps the best way to understand what is happening, is to realize that there are two primary forces at work in the world. One force is the world's financial and industrial elite, which wants to make money. The other force is revolutionary socialism, which has been playing possum for the last decade.

The Kremlin game, in this respect, has been a very simple one: namely, use the greed of Western business men to destroy the West's defenses. Use this greed to move auto factories from America to Poland -- to move missile and bomber plants to Communist China. As Pat Buchanan said in his recent book, "The Great Betrayal," China treats America "like a colony, a source of raw materials and a dumping ground for manufacturers."

This has all been manipulated for a reason. And Russia's alliance with China, in this respect, is no accident.

The business of America is business. Latter-day trade theory sees the weakening of nationalism and the erasing of borders as a positive development, which accelerates economic growth. Business people see "win-win" equations everywhere. They often see themselves as eradicating poverty, disease, backwardness and war. But they are mainly eradicating America's heavy industry. Soon we will not be able to build the tanks and ships and aircraft we need to wage war. Soon we will be totally dependent on foreign suppliers -- perhaps on Communist suppliers.

President Putin smiles at the prospects. His war machine is building its strength. His heavy industry is involved in a rapid modernization and expansion. Last Dec. 7 Putin spoke of bringing the former Soviet states together. But he was careful in his statement. He would not alarm the West with the overt return of the Soviet Union. That would be counterproductive.

The Soviet Union will be put back together only after a crisis, when America has offended Russia's honor. As Vladimir Putin said during a Feb. 7 interview on Russian television: "Whoever offends us will last not longer than three days."

After this fashion, a light phase of Russian history darkens into a tragic phase.

[Redcloak]

Hmmm... So why aren't we mining neodymium here? Oh yeah...

The little red star (pardon the pun) marks the mine location in Mountain Pass, CA. Thank you DiFi! Though, of course, I'm sure that her hubby's Chinese pals thanked her first.

[George Frm Br00klyn Park]

Guys, The unexorable{?} {I DON'T think{?} so} westward movement of power continues as it has for centuries. Peace and love, George.

[Paul Ross]

Regarding the vagueness of the DoD's response and their failure to answer critical and specific questions, Jake Swinson, a weapons expert earlier recommended to WND by the Pentagon, said, "[Irwin's] up there with Rumsfeld's people," adding, "They probably don't know what to do about it. They're probably in shock. That's a pretty serious thing."

The JDAM is too critical for them to hem and haw any longer. We must ensure that this plant stays put. If China wants to make our magnets, fine. They will make them in the Indiana plant, however. No closure. No relocation to Tianjin.

C'mon Rummy! You're too much an American to cave into this CLINTON CRAP! Show that spine! Show those famous ELBOWS. FIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY!

Everybody needs to email Rummy and the WhiteHouse. And then Blitz em with Snail Mail. And phone calls. This has got to be raised to the level that they can no longer ignore.

God forbid HILLARY gets ahold of this issue, and uses it in her super-hypocritical way to make the Bush administration to look clueless. Granted, she and worthless traitor husband CREATED the problem in the first place, and nourished it with all the illegal Chinese campaign contributions encouraging them in their treason...But GWB will NEVER counter with that accusation. He is too wedded to 'Moving On.' He is just asking to be made into a 'Punching Bag' for Hillary.

[JesseHousman]

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