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Contra Costa redies ban on .50 caliber rifles
Contra Costa Times ^ | August 9, 2003 | Peter Felsenfeld

Posted on 08/11/2003 12:23:22 PM PDT by Socratease

County studies, readies rifle bill By Peter Felsenfeld CONTRA COSTA TIMES

All it would take is a willing mind and a powerful explosive to turn Contra Costa's hulking oil refineries into giant chemical bombs.

In an age of terrorism and readily available weapons, neither prospect can be completely discounted.

So Contra Costa supervisors are scheduled Tuesday to take aim at a readily available gun they say presents just such a threat. The board is expected to ask county attorneys to draft an ordinance that would ban the sale of .50-caliber BMG rifles in unincorporated areas.

The measure would be based on similar legislation approved in Los Angeles this summer. Supervisors say they want Contra Costa cities to follow with similar laws.

Such steps are necessary because any person could purchase the weapon, set up on a hillside and cause some major damage to a refinery, said Supervisor John Gioia of Richmond. The gun is often fired as it rests on stand.

"These are not the kind of things that are used by street gangs, because they're so big and obvious," he said. "They're more likely to be used by bad people who are intent on causing serious harm."

Assemblyman Paul Koretz, D-West Hollywood, introduced legislation this year to curb the manufacture and sale of .50-caliber rifles statewide. His bill, AB50, stalled in the Senate Public Safety Committee last month.

The weapons generally weigh between 30 and 50 pounds, and can be bought legally in stores or online for about $5,000, said Dan Lilja, owner of Lilja Precision Rifle Barrels, which manufactures barrels for the guns.

The world's most skilled marksman can hit targets with the rifle up to 1,980 yards away, according to the Fifty Caliber Club Web site.

Supervisor Gayle Uilkema of Lafayette said the guns could fire exploding bullets through 8 inches of steel, and certainly through containers transporting hazardous materials.

"There is no way we can completely shut off access to the refineries," she said. "The gun has the capability to destroy refinery equipment."

The ordinance would probably set off a firestorm of opposition from gun advocates. Chuck Michel, spokesman for the California Rifle and Pistol Association, called Uilkema's statement "utter crap."

"There's absolutely no way it can pierce 8 inches of steel."

He said the supervisors were stoking fears of terrorism to push an anti-gun agenda and mask the rifle's legitimate sporting uses.

"These rifles are legal for a reason: they're primarily used for hunting and target shooting events," he said. "If a terrorist really wanted to destroy a refinery, he could get his hands on a rocket-propelled grenade on the black market."

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To: AngryJawa
I'm sure he has already hit the abuse button reporting me as an anti-planet hunting troll.
41 posted on 08/11/2003 1:13:44 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Show me a "planet plinker" and I will show you a person that would shoot cute little puppies if there was a season for such hunting.

You've heard of potato guns?

I have a puppy gun. I use it to launch puppies over the Atlanta skyline.

They look just like meteors, except if you listen closely, you can hear: "wwwwhiiiiiimmppppppperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........"

42 posted on 08/11/2003 1:14:36 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: AngryJawa
Perhaps it's best that he not own a fiddy cal.

So I say's to the Loch Ness Monster, "MONSTER! No you can't have no fiddy cal." And my wife goes, "I let him have a 9." And I go, "WOMAN! You can't be giv'n no Loch Ness Monster no 9 millimeter! He'll just be back for a fiddy cal!"

43 posted on 08/11/2003 1:16:43 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Sender
You guys and your "traditional" equipment always going around and looking down your noses at people who use more modern weaponry.

Yeah, asshole, I wear blaze orange when I hunt planets not some silly ass coon-skin cap and buckskin leggins.



44 posted on 08/11/2003 1:17:31 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Well, planet hunting season doesn't start for another two months. Maybe I'll report you too, troll. 8^)

You know, this whole line of debate may solve a future near-Earth asteriod problem. Every cloud does have a silver lining after all.

45 posted on 08/11/2003 1:18:09 PM PDT by AngryJawa
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To: Lazamataz
I'm tracing this post.
46 posted on 08/11/2003 1:18:46 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: AngryJawa
Another "silver cloud lining" cultist!

Go back an play with your fairy dust!
47 posted on 08/11/2003 1:20:25 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Lazamataz
"I understand if you fire one of these things at the sun, you can cause it to go supernova."

ROFLMAO! Yours is the post of the day!
48 posted on 08/11/2003 1:21:17 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: Lazamataz
I just reported you for butchering a South Park script!
49 posted on 08/11/2003 1:22:05 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Lazamataz
"They look just like meteors, except if you listen closely, you can hear: "wwwwhiiiiiimmppppppperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........"

Wow, that's a relief. I was thinkin' I'd have to cut back on my drinkin'. Them pups sure do fuss alot while you're ramrodding them down the barrel...I had to switch to hamsters.

50 posted on 08/11/2003 1:24:17 PM PDT by AngryJawa
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To: SLB
There are explosive rounds for them as well as incendiary and armor-piercing-incendiary.
51 posted on 08/11/2003 1:24:22 PM PDT by Central_Floridian
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To: AngryJawa
Try your hamsters in a condom.

They make good sabots.
52 posted on 08/11/2003 1:25:46 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: 17th Miss Regt
"Call me a Mars hugger, but I don't think people need to be shooting planets when they have grocery stores on every corner.Sir, I beg to differ. Planet plinking is perfectly reasonable as long as it is done on public land and as long as the firer pays attention to who or what is behind his target (NRA, Planet Plinking Guidelines, 2001.)"

Does one have to wear blaze orange while shooting at the planets?
53 posted on 08/11/2003 1:26:08 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: Bluntpoint
BWAAAHAHAA!
54 posted on 08/11/2003 1:26:16 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: Bluntpoint
I'm seeing potato gun here...
55 posted on 08/11/2003 1:26:33 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: Lazamataz
"I understand if you fire one of these things at the sun, you can cause it to go supernova. "

You might be right! However, until you get your azimuth corrected for time, you may want to consider taking aim at the moon.

Semper Fi

56 posted on 08/11/2003 1:26:44 PM PDT by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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To: Bluntpoint
Try your hamsters in a condom.

You're not Richard Gere, by any chance....?

57 posted on 08/11/2003 1:26:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Socratease
I have no doubt that once they ban the .50 cal in Contra Costa (where ever the hell that is), all the terrorists will start throwing their .50 cals. away and no longer be a threat to their oil refineries. After all, the terrorists would not want to violate a town ordinance.
58 posted on 08/11/2003 1:27:39 PM PDT by Flint
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To: Socratease
ban the sale of .50-caliber BMG rifles in unincorporated areas.

So people will have to go to an incorporated area and spend the $2000 it will cost to buy one?

What rubbish is this?

I want my... I want my... I want my BFG


59 posted on 08/11/2003 1:28:56 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: Lazamataz
Oh, I'm so sorry! But you don't have to be a big movie star to know that condomized hamsters can really work your tickle spot!
60 posted on 08/11/2003 1:29:01 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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