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Schism, and soon (Episcopal Church Crisis)
The American Partisan ^
| 11 August, 2003
| J. King
Posted on 08/11/2003 11:58:06 AM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: The Right Stuff
PING!!!!!! Excellent Article!!!!
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:01:49 PM PDT
by
CurlyBill
(Voter fraud is one of the primary campaign strategies of the Democrats!!!!)
To: The Right Stuff
Other Episcopalian Bishops, like Bishop Shaw, asserted that they werent that concerned with Scripture because they were being led by the Holy Spirit. A Spirit may indeed be leading them, but I highly doubt that it is holy.
Might I ask where they learned of the expresssion "The Holy Spirit?"
From scripture, no doubt.
They're worse than heretical....they're also stupid.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:04:57 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: The Right Stuff
It's interesting how Satan works his will at our most vulnerable time when we appear to be at our strongest. Enjoyed this article.
To: The Right Stuff
most Episcopal real estate is owned by the denomination, not individual congregations. Those who split must leave, and very valuable real estate is thus left in the hands of the apostate lavender lobby which has infiltrated and poisoned it.
Is the Episcopal the denomination, or is Anglican the denomination? If it is Anglican cannot the Archbishop of Canterbury ORDER the property to go with any congregation that wishes to align itself with the African provinces?
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:07:21 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: Lucretia Borgia
More ammo.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:09:52 PM PDT
by
brbethke
To: The Right Stuff
- "Most egregiously, Bishop Robinson is not posing as a sinner in desperate need of Gods redemption. Rather, Bishop Robinson is living openly with his partner, in an active homosexual lifestyle which further defies the churchs teachings on extramarital sex." This says it all in a nutshell!
Imagine your local (heterosexual) pastor residing with his 'live-in' lady friend. Is this where we're headed?
To: The Right Stuff
Over the past 30 years, the Episcopal chuch in the US has become a bunch of fat, dumb, and lazy Canadians, priding themselves on being non-judgmental and non-confrontational. There is NO issue on which they will draw a line, no issue on which they will take a stand. They are no longer "God's Frozen People," they have become Unitarians (except they drive nicer cars than the Unitarians).
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:15:59 PM PDT
by
Tacis
To: The Right Stuff
I have just come back from a week out with my Boy Scout Troop. I went to church this Sunday, and there are numerous people that are very upset. Our pastor needs a bit of time with this as this Sunday was his first after having come back from heart surgery. He addressed it some in his sermon, but it's going to be curious to see if this splits my parish. Our church is on some very valuable real estate, and I'd hate to see it turned over to the Diocese.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:18:21 PM PDT
by
RonF
To: xzins
The Episocal Church of the USA (ECUSA) is part of the Anglican communion but a separate entity. (It dates back to that 1776 revolution thing and the need to form a church that did not have the monarch of England as its head honcho.)
The titles to most church properties are held by the local diocese. The Archbishop of Canterbury has no authority in the matter.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:21:20 PM PDT
by
brbethke
To: brbethke
If the church stays within Anglicanism, why would these "loving" folks like Bish Robinson object to "differently-minded" congregations moving themselves and their property under the guidance of a different Anglican primate?
I mean, after all, it's not about money, is it?
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:25:07 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: xzins
The Anglican Communion consists of a number of national churches who are in communion with one another.
The Archbishop of Canterbury (who, by the way, is sympathetic to the cause of sodomy) has only "moral" authority and not direct jurisdiction over the Episcopal Church in America.
I believe each Diocese has control over the property of the Episcopal Church in its territory. The Abp of Canterbury does not.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:25:36 PM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: xzins
You'll see McDonalds franchisees rebranding their stores to Burger Kings before that happens.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:29:14 PM PDT
by
brbethke
To: xzins
You'll see McDonalds franchisees rebranding their stores to Burger Kings before that happens.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:29:16 PM PDT
by
brbethke
To: brbethke
Ooops. D-d-double c-click.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:29:40 PM PDT
by
brbethke
To: The Right Stuff
The pro-Robinson prelates seemed to exhibit a vast moral and theological confusion which makes one wonder why they picked their chosen career. Although I can not asswer this question I can at least give a SWAG. Before 1968, graduate students could get a student deferrment from the Draft Board. In 1968, this was changed and only divinity majors (and maybe one or two other majors) could get deferrments. Divinity schools opened their doors to people whose only reason for being in divinity school was to dodge the draft. Unfortunately, many stayed and rose in the ranks of the denominations.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:33:41 PM PDT
by
NathanR
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
To: Tacis
...they have become Unitarians (except they drive nicer cars than the Unitarians). Bingo! And the only sin recognized by either religion is that of voting republican.
To: The Right Stuff
The Babylonian Capitivity did the same thing to Catholicism. It was ended when the plague struck Avignon and killed with reckless abandon as The Avignon 'Pope' prayed for God's forebearance.
This schism is in a way more entropic and harder to bridge. Not because so many feel so strongly, but probably because so few really care at all. As the churches split into smaller and smaller groups, they will argue smaller and less signifigent points to the bloody hilt. As Mahomet II sacked Constantinople, noone could quite agree how many angels would dance on the head of a pin.
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posted on
08/11/2003 12:34:54 PM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
To: The Right Stuff
Other Episcopalian Bishops, like Bishop Shaw, asserted that they werent that concerned with Scripture because they were being led by the Holy Spirit.''Didn't Charles Manson say more or less the same thing?
To: Canticle_of_Deborah
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