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Anyone who is proposing programs for children and the elderly which are paid for by me is a socialist. Children already have an after school program, it's call HOMEWORK! And if you had watched "60 Minutes" last night you would know that there already exists programs for the elderly! It's called a JOB! "Calm down?" You may have the luxury of calming down but those of us who still live, work and pay taxes in CA don't have the luxury of "calming down". We are paying the highest taxes and fees in the country and are in debt as far as the eye can see. This state is on the brink of bankruptcy and we certainly don't have time to train an actor on how to be a governor much less one who has his pet liberal programs to fund! VOTE 4 MCCLINTOCK! http://www.tommcclintock.com

Know what gets me?

1) This thread is headed up by an article indicating Schwarzenegger's conservative position on Prop. 187.

2) So very, very eager are you to attack Schwarzenegger and plug McClintock (whom I like, BTW -- although some of his supporters are grating) that you post a post having zilch to do with the Prop. 187 issue discussed in the article. Apparently you have a canned, "SCREW ARNOLD! YAY TOM!" post all ready to go and saved on your desktop for pasting, even if the thread has nothing to do with it.

3) Then, when challenged, you hilariously claim -- in a thread that, to repeat, begins with an article discussing Arnold's position on an issue -- that Arnold hasn't taken any positions on any issues. I'm still suppressing giggles. Also, if he hasn't taken positions, how can you say he's a socialist?

Bottom line is, we agree that McClintock is a great guy and would make a fine governor. The difference is that I am keeping an eye on Democrat prevention, even if that means a big compromise ideologically. I'm not a "cult of victory" member and may well end up supporting McClintock over Arnold, but I won't sit still for gratuitous attacks on either man -- especially by supporters of one against the other. And that's just what you did in your first post.

It may interest you to know that Tom McClintock has disavowed supporters like you. On AM 640 (KFI in LA), either Thurs. or Friday evening, a caller came on praising Tom (who was the guest on the program), then bashing Arnold as a "Trojan horse" of the left, a socialist, "no better than Davis or Bustamante," etc. McClintock stopped the caller cold. He said he thought he (Tom) was the best man for the job, but that he had been hearing both Arnold's and his own supporters bashing each other, and that it had to stop, that clearly both men were wayyy better than Davis or Bustamante. It's just this kind of "socialist! socialist" hyperventilating that he was responding to.

On that note: I apologize for the Bactine comments, although I do think that your efforts do "trip you up" and make you look bad.