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Jittery U.S. Soldiers Kill 6 Iraqis
Yahoo ^ | Aug 10th 2003 | SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI

Posted on 08/10/2003 8:37:25 PM PDT by CanadianFella

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The night air hung like a hot wet blanket over the north Baghdad suburb of Slaykh. At 9 p.m., an electrical transformer blew up, plunging the neighborhood into darkness.

American soldiers, apparently fearing a bomb attack, went on alert. Within 45 minutes, six Iraqis trying to get home before the 11 p.m. curfew were shot and killed by U.S. forces.

Anwaar Kawaz, 36, lost her husband and three of four children. "We kept shouting, 'We're a family! Don't shoot!' But no one listened. They kept shooting," she told The Associated Press. She's expecting another child this month.

When asked about Friday's shootings, Lt. Col. Guy Shields, coalition military spokesman, said, "Our checkpoints are usually marked and our soldiers are trained and disciplined. I will check on that. That is serious."

Confronted by daily guerrilla attacks that have claimed 56 American lives since May 1, U.S. troops are on edge. Iraqis complain that many innocent people have died at surprise U.S. checkpoints thrown up on dark streets shortly before the curfew. Drivers hurrying home say they don't see the soldiers or hear their orders to stop.

The Kawaz family left the home of Anwaar's parents on Bilal Habashi Street at 9:15 p.m. for the 10-minute drive home. They had traveled only a half-mile when they reached the intersection where they said the American bullets took their terrible toll.

A few yards in front of them, two soldiers standing near two Humvees were shooting at the family's white Volkswagen, she said. Two other soldiers near a Humvee to the right of the car also fired, she said.

Witnesses told the AP one of the soldiers fell to the ground screaming in pain, apparently a victim of friendly fire.

"They killed us. There was no signal. Nothing at all. We didn't see anything but armored cars," Anwaar said Sunday, two days after the confrontation.

"Our headlights were on. He (her husband) didn't have time to put his foot on the brake. They kept shooting. He was shot in the forehead. I was still sitting next to him. I got out of the car to get help. I was shouting, 'Help me! Help me!' No one came."

Witnesses said her husband, Adel Kawaz, survived for at least an hour, still sitting in the car after being hit in the head and back.

Ibrahim Arslan, whose house is on the corner where the Kawaz car came under fire, said Kawaz cried out for help.

Arslan said he and a neighbor tried to remove the wounded Kawaz from the car, but the door was jammed. Then they fled when automatic rifle fire again split the air.

"The next day we heard he had died," Arslan said.

Ali Taha, who lives across the street, said Haydar Kawaz, 18, was sitting up in the back of the car with a bullet wound in his head. His sister, 17-year-old Olaa, slumped dead into his arms.

When the shooting stopped and the American soldiers were gone, Taha said, he and other neighbors ventured out about 11 p.m. and took the bodies of the brother and sister from the car, placed them on the pavement and covered them with a sheet.

The Americans had taken the bodies of Adel, the husband, and another child, 8-year-old Mirvet. Two days later, the family still did not know where the bodies were taken.

A fourth child, a 13-year-old Hadeel, survived.

"I was sitting in the middle, between my brother Haydar and sister Olaa," Hadeel said, her head bandaged.

"I felt blood coming down my head. I tried to drag myself out of the car. An American pulled me out. I kept telling them that my father and my brother were in the car. There was a translator with them.

"My father was shouting, 'We are still alive!' but no went to help him.

"The Americans told me to go with them but I was afraid they would hurt me. I didn't trust them. So I ran to my grandparents' house," Hadeel said. She told the story sitting in her grandparents' home, crying quietly, surrounded by family.

Lt. Sean McLaughlin, stationed at a base near Slaykh, could only express sympathy, although he said his unit was not involved.

"No one feels worse than us. We want to build a safe Iraq (news - web sites) for the Iraqis. It's a difficult situation here," McLaughlin said.

A few blocks from where the car was shot up, 19-year-old Sayf Ali was shot and killed as he drove home with a cousin and a friend. He, too, didn't see the American checkpoint, survivors in the car said. Soldiers opened fire on the blue Opel station wagon, which kept moving after Ali was shot. The cousin and the friend jumped out. Soldiers kept firing until the car caught fire incinerating Ali's body, according to one of the witnesses, Arslan.

About the same time nearby, Ali Salman, 31, was driving home, also unaware of the unannounced American checkpoints. He apparently didn't see the soldiers either and was killed.

Ghaleb Laftah, 24, who was sitting in the back of Salman's Honda, and Wisam Sabri, sitting in the front passenger seat, were wounded.

"There was no light. We didn't see the Americans," said Laftah, limping from a leg injury as he walked to Salman's wake that was being held under a tent on Bilal Habashi Street.

"We didn't hurt anyone. We didn't break the law," Laftah said, speaking with difficulty because of four broken teeth from the shooting.

"My son, ... the Americans killed him," said Salman's father, Hikmat, who broke down in sobs. "He was on his way home and was caught up in the shooting. He was afraid, got out of the car and they still shot him. He was frightened, then he died. I only have one (son)," he said.

Family members were also holding a wake for Sayf Ali. The men sat under a tent outside the house and the women were indoors, according to Iraqi tradition.

Sabah Azawmi, an uncle and a Sunni Muslim, said his tribe would seek revenge on the Americans.

"They set fire to the car while he was inside," said Azawmi.

"They are terrified of the Iraqis. If they weren't afraid, they wouldn't behave this way," he said.

But Hikmat Salman, Ali Salman's father and a Shiite Muslim, said he was not interested in revenge. He said he would leave that to God.

The Kawaz family, also Shiites, also said they would leave revenge to God.

"I wish Saddam (Hussein) would return and kill all Americans," Anwaar Kawaz said. Under Saddam, "we used to go out at one in the morning. We went out at 9 now and they killed us.

"I want to drink Bush's blood. They are all criminals," she said, beating her chest.


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KEYWORDS: civiliancasualties; iraq
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To: cyborg
OK that's fine, but sitting here in our cushy living rooms and armchair quarterbacking doesn't help their morale NOR give them the tools/education they need to fix/prevent any further incidents. If you're complaining about morale then don't harp and make it worse. I'm betting they're already in serious trouble for it, especially if they did not follow procedure. However if the family was out after curfew, I'm betting they were. And if they really feared being out after curfew I wouldn't be silly enough to speed through the streets trying to get home, I'd either take shelter or just before curfew seek some help FROM the soldiers in getting home. Anything but racing through the streets looking suspicious.
21 posted on 08/10/2003 9:01:27 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: MEG33
How is this Viet Nam?

It's Viet Nam because he's starting out cynical, is my guess.

22 posted on 08/10/2003 9:02:11 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: CanadianFella
...and for what reason... 'This account has been banned or suspended.' CanadianFella???
23 posted on 08/10/2003 9:02:22 PM PDT by easonc52
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To: Numbers Guy
Thanks for that post. I echo your sentiment.
24 posted on 08/10/2003 9:03:04 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: easonc52
yeah just saw that myself. I shoulda looked earlier.



Prairie
25 posted on 08/10/2003 9:03:17 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Middle East terrorists to the world: " We don't want no STINKING PEACE!!")
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To: CanadianFella
What are you people talking about? You have to put yourself into the boots of the person handed the responsibility. It's not Vietnam, it's an experiment.
I say cut to the chase, tell America the truth about Islam and go from there. Baby steps to reality. They want us dead.
26 posted on 08/10/2003 9:03:17 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (This has been a public service announcement.)
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To: easonc52
guess it can't respond anymore...
27 posted on 08/10/2003 9:03:32 PM PDT by easonc52
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To: jeepit
Can we say Vietnam?

No.

28 posted on 08/10/2003 9:03:46 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Polar bear!
29 posted on 08/10/2003 9:03:47 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: easonc52
I wish I had been snottier in my postings to it. heh

Prairie
30 posted on 08/10/2003 9:05:15 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Middle East terrorists to the world: " We don't want no STINKING PEACE!!")
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To: King Prout
SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI

Miss Sheherezade seems to have gone to the Bulwer-Lytton School of Prose

All these "Iraqis" seem to have Iranian names.

31 posted on 08/10/2003 9:05:37 PM PDT by Alouette (Every democratic politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
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To: CanadianFella
I was trying to figure out what does not sound right...If the family started a half a mile before the checkpoint, they must have been accelerating toward the checkpoint. This would have most likely given the soldiers at the checkpoint the impression that they were being charged....Sounds like some drivers ed might be in order. I am very sorry for the loss of this family but I also know that there is clearly more to this story. I also find it interesting that no member of the unit manning the checkpoint had a chance to make a statement....Very interesting....

Vietnam no....More like Somalia where our soldiers get dragged through the streets as thanks for trying to help...
32 posted on 08/10/2003 9:07:10 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: prairiebreeze
checking is just a habit for an 'it' so far from my belief system - lol
33 posted on 08/10/2003 9:09:14 PM PDT by easonc52
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To: Terriergal
OK that's fine, but sitting here in our cushy living rooms and armchair quarterbacking doesn't help their morale NOR give them the tools/education they need to fix/prevent any further incidents.

* I am sure they're wondering why they don't have air conditioners. Or why the British have reported looters stealing cable that supplies electricity to power Iraqis' AC.

If you're complaining about morale then don't harp and make it worse. I'm betting they're already in serious trouble for it, especially if they did not follow procedure.

* You are right. I am sorry for sounding like a whiner. I am sorry I didn't read the part where one of the women said, she wants to drink Bush's blood. Not exactly a sympathy engendering response...

34 posted on 08/10/2003 9:09:14 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: CanadianFella
The Iraqi loyalists have already shown some skill in manipulating the press in the propaganda war. What better way to stir things up than to dress in US/UK uniforms and ambush civilians?

Never saw the checkpoint? US troops 'jittery' and shooting willy nilly? Murdering innocents en masse? Just doesn't ring true for me. Methinks something sinister is afoot.

If a US soldier was really shot and injured by another trooper, I've got to believe the press would have been all over it.

The allies already recovered bunches of US & UK uniforms stashed by the Fedeyeen in the sand early on in the war. Willing to bet they recovered them all?
35 posted on 08/10/2003 9:10:24 PM PDT by frostbit (Non Sibi, sed Patriae. "Not self, but country.")
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To: CanadianFella
Yahoo ^ | Aug 10th 2003 | SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI

,,, is this guy a tea boy for Robert Fisk? One thing, war gives parasites like Faramarzi and Fisk better bank balances too.

36 posted on 08/10/2003 9:10:56 PM PDT by shaggy eel (Checking in from 41º 18'S 174º 47'E)
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To: CanadianFella
Some aliens intend to be alienated.

Some things don't make sense in this story, but I don't know what the procedures are. Are checkpoints conducted without any lighting at night? When a shooting occurs at a checkpoint, do our soldiers just disappear, without checking on the suspects? Why would a soldier bother with pulling the child out and then not do anything for the others?
37 posted on 08/10/2003 9:12:54 PM PDT by skr (The liberals are only interested in seeking Weapons for Bush Destruction)
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To: Alouette
The Persians had control of what is now Iraq for centuries. There would be some cultural and familial bleedover as a natural consequence.
38 posted on 08/10/2003 9:14:20 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: CanadianFella
A no win situation. Let's get the hell out.
39 posted on 08/10/2003 9:15:12 PM PDT by RLK
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To: CanadianFella
Up your canadian SARS vacation Fag Boy!

I love your home page.

40 posted on 08/10/2003 9:15:28 PM PDT by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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