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1 posted on 08/10/2003 6:35:52 PM PDT by CMClay
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To: CMClay
Kind of a misleading title.
2 posted on 08/10/2003 6:36:53 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: CMClay
Technically, she isn't an athiest. She's just in limbo, or needs proof. I'd define her as agnostic. Hopefully, she'll find her way.
3 posted on 08/10/2003 6:37:04 PM PDT by rintense
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Read her comments re her spiritual journey. . .NOwhere do I get the impression she is an atheist in the 're-making'. . .
4 posted on 08/10/2003 6:38:35 PM PDT by cricket
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To: CMClay
She's about as deep as a piece of tissue paper.
5 posted on 08/10/2003 6:39:17 PM PDT by TomB
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** New turn in Dr. Laura's spiritual journey Convert to Judaism says she's no longer following rituals **

Could you please change the thread title to reflec the ACTUAL title? Thank you kindly.

In NO way is Dr Laura proclaiming her former atheistic faith. It's important to report TRUE article titles.

7 posted on 08/10/2003 6:46:11 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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Post the correct title of articles.
Thanks
11 posted on 08/10/2003 6:49:07 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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"I still see myself as a Jew. But the spiritual journey in that direction – as hard-core as I was at it – just didn't fulfill something in me that I needed."

Didn't meet her needs. Wow.

I thought the Jewish faith was predicated on being faithful to God as indicated by the Ten Commandments, and keeping God's laws as set down in the Torah.

As a Christian, it is dying to one's self, accepting the gift of salvation by grace through the sacrifice on the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Nowhere in the Bible have I read anything about getting your needs met.

12 posted on 08/10/2003 6:49:21 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (Conservative babes with guns are so hot!)
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She's searching,which is fine.

But with her soap box,she's starting to annoy me,kinda like an recovering alchoholic.

13 posted on 08/10/2003 6:51:57 PM PDT by mdittmar
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Christ preached a personal and private relationship with God. Just becasue Dr. Laura has now pursued this course does not make her an athiest. Maybe she, like many, is a tired of the hypocracy of the organized chruch leaders of all faiths. Or, perhaps, being an educated woman, she feels that she doen't need some sweating, Rolex wearing preacher interpreting the word of God for her.
14 posted on 08/10/2003 6:53:23 PM PDT by Natural Law
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She'll eventually come full circle and become Catholic,
like her Mother, and thereby make peace with her past.
16 posted on 08/10/2003 6:56:36 PM PDT by polemikos (Ecce Agnus Dei)
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From your keywords I gather you don't care for Dr Laura.

I do enjoy and respect her and pray that her search for closer connection with God bears fruit.
17 posted on 08/10/2003 6:57:37 PM PDT by mlmr (Am I having fun yet???)
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''By and large, the faxes from Christians have been very loving, very supportive,'' she said. ''They'd say, 'We're praying for you.' 'We hope you can attain this because of the work you do.' 'We can see how committed you are.' 'You are doing God's work.'

She's a moralist - everyone's life, the failures and the remedies for everything being tied to either following or disobeying the ten commandments.

Considering how the moralist fits into Judaism, this is an interesting development. God isn't finished with her yet. Perhaps her journey will lead her to truly doing God's work, which would be to stop condemning people and start giving them the real answer - God's Son who fulfilled the law which we couldn't.

Prayers for her on this step of her journey. The atheist tag is just nuts.

19 posted on 08/10/2003 6:59:48 PM PDT by saint
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My fiance's co-worker used to work with her at KFI. He says she swears like a sailor.
26 posted on 08/10/2003 7:03:30 PM PDT by sonserae
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Two things I find interesting in the article:

''I felt that I was putting out a tremendous amount toward that mission, that end, and not feeling return, not feeling connected, not feeling that inspired,'' she told her radio audience.

I see her use the word "feeling" over and over. Doesn't she chastise people on her radio show for saying "I feel like this or that"?

That aside when I read this, I can't help but think she's craving something more..a personal connection..she actually is more on her way to Christiandom than she is to athiesm after reading this quote. But starting as an athiest, then moving to Judaism, I can understand how difficult a realization that may be--Lord knows I've btdt in a different way--when you've been denying Him for so long and propping yourself up for so long as the final authority, it's hard to admit you need a savior and are aching for Him:

''I have envied all my Christian friends who really, universally, deeply, feel loved by God,'' she told her listeners last Tuesday. ''They use the name Jesus, in referring to God. My Christian friends generally talk about Jesus when referring to God. That was a mystery, feeling connected to God. To me that was a mystery, and I was very sad about that and very envious of my friends.''
29 posted on 08/10/2003 7:06:06 PM PDT by glory
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She said once that the hardest Commandment for her to keep was the First. And I knew exactly what she meant. It is hard to stay really connected to God, and place him above all, minute to minute, day by day. But I love the wording of the First Commandment, it fills my heart when I recite it.

Another thing she said once that I flashed to immediately reading this piece, was that if she knew God could forgive murderers (I think she meant the likes of Hitler, etc., though) she would renounce Judaism. And while I understood what she meant her tone of voice seemed to seek a confrontation with God. So the news that she's reverting to agnosticism doesn't surprise me.

41 posted on 08/10/2003 7:33:58 PM PDT by AlbionGirl (A kite flies highest against the wind, not with it. - Winston Churchill)
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"From my own religion, I have either gotten nothing, which is 99 percent of it, or two of the nastiest letters I have gotten in a long time. I guess that's my point, I don't get much back. Not much warmth coming back."

Interesting...

44 posted on 08/10/2003 7:41:05 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Al Gore at NYU : "Islam delenda est")
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prayer bump.
45 posted on 08/10/2003 7:41:55 PM PDT by nobdysfool (Let God be true, and every man a liar...)
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In any of Schlessinger's writing has she described her transformation from non-believer to believer? That would interest me.
47 posted on 08/10/2003 7:45:55 PM PDT by Misterioso
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I for one have long been a supporter of Dr. Laura despite occasionally disagreeing with her on certain issues. I have prayed for her to take that step from the old covenant to the new, and perhaps that is happening now. Most of the people I know who label her a hypocrite either don't have any idea what the word really means, or don't know enough about her to back up such a statement.

May she find the fulfillment of her needs in the arms of our risen Savior.

59 posted on 08/10/2003 8:17:04 PM PDT by Frumanchu (mene mene tekel upharsin)
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'By and large, the faxes from Christians have been very loving, very supportive,'' she said. From my own religion, I have either gotten nothing, which is 99 percent of it, or two of the nastiest letters I have gotten in a long time. I guess that's my point, I don't get much back. Not much warmth coming back.

Stopping rituals is nothing at all unjewish, for there is a difference between believing rituals and believing G_d.

As for her "change", it mostly is due to the great Christian services she received and the life of servicing in general as opposed to rituals servicing a specific cause. We can only do so much in the little time we have.

'By and large, the faxes from Christians have been very loving, very supportive,'' she said. From my own religion, I have either gotten nothing, which is 99 percent of it, or two of the nastiest letters I have gotten in a long time. I guess that's my point, I don't get much back. Not much warmth coming back.

Stopping rituals is nothing at all unjewish, for there is a difference between believing rituals and believing G_d.

As for her change, it mostly is due to the great Christian services she received and the life of servicing in general as opposed to rituals servicing a specific cause. We can only do so much in the little time we have.

Judaism is a static structure while Christianity is a more dynamic structure. Evil seeks to destroy the former structure by destructuring life and imposing its own structures, while Christianity sees an opportunity in evil's destructuring life to make friends and brothers of the faith on the road, a life of servicing and service exchange.

The battle is essentialy at two levels, on the structure static level are Jews demonstrating their static sociological structure against the pagans and self-idolatre whose science is not applicable to man and sociology,
and on the dynamic level where there is no structure, only pure faith value of the service of the individual and not his or her material means .

The experiment of G_d is no more opposed to the experiment of the Devil, but the bearing of fruits is opposed to the bearing of thorns, where sanction and reward is most immediate and visible, in determining duels at other times.

76 posted on 08/11/2003 5:42:36 AM PDT by lavaroise
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