To: onyx
Not sure there are not more than one! What better place to create disharmony than here on FR.
Personally I think Simon and McClintock should get a clue and back Arnold who can win. Neither of those two stand a chance to get elected! Without Arnold, neither of them would win either. Wish for once, Republicans would put the good of the State and Republican Party ahead of their own selfish interest in order to win in October.
Came to the conclusion over the last several days that the purist conservatives are just downright selfish -- only explanation. Their "so-called" stand on principles cost us elections and we get DemocRATs who are worse than the Republican candidate they tanked! What good is their "so-called" stand on principles if the outcome is worse?
Have also decided over the last few days that the word RINO is being used on the wrong group of people. To me the Republican in Name Only are the arch right conservatives who threaten not to vote if they don't like what the Republican candidate is all about. Never hear Arnold, Olympia Snow, Susan Collins and others say they are not voting for Republicans if they don't agree 100% for a Republican candidate!
Think about it -- only one group threatens to sit home and not vote and actually did in 2000 which almost cost Bush the election -- the ultra right which includes the Keyes faction of the Republican Party! Seems to me they are the Republican in Name Only part of Republicans since they didn't vote for President Bush or stayed home. As Keyes said in 2000, he was going to sit back and say He Told Us So when President Bush lost in November. I don't call that a "real" Republican!
These non-voters/non-supporters yet want to tell the rest of us that we are RINO's, but yet we vote in every election and probably 99% of us vote straight Republican. Something is wrong with this picture!
45 posted on
08/10/2003 6:56:22 PM PDT by
PhiKapMom
(Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
To: PhiKapMom
Simon and McClintock should get a clue and back Arnold who can win Worth repeatimg...Democrates were able to get behind Bustimani (SP?). Republicans circled the wagons, turned inward, and started shooting.
47 posted on
08/10/2003 6:59:38 PM PDT by
Drango
(A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
To: PhiKapMom
Have also decided over the last few days that the word RINO is being used on the wrong group of people. To me the Republican in Name Only are the arch right conservatives who threaten not to vote if they don't like what the Republican candidate is all about. Excellent idea!
Never hear Arnold, Olympia Snow, Susan Collins and others say they are not voting for Republicans if they don't agree 100% for a Republican candidate!
Well, John Warner threatened to NOT escort Ollie North into the Senate chamber when it looked like Ollie would win a Senate seat a few years back. In fact, JW campaigned against Ollie.
51 posted on
08/10/2003 7:08:23 PM PDT by
onyx
(Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
To: PhiKapMom
These non-voters/non-supporters yet want to tell the rest of us that we are RINO's, but yet we vote in every election and probably 99% of us vote straight Republican. Something is wrong with this picture! You're absolutely right! I have been voting straight Republican since I cast my first vote for Gerald Ford in 1976, and have voted in EVERY single election since that time. (I even voted early in 2002 just in case something happened that I couldn't get to the polls on election day!) I have never sat one out in a fit of pique, as these threaten to do so constantly. And I'm getting pretty tired of being called a RINO or a "neo-con" or any of those other code words for not being as pure as they are.
56 posted on
08/10/2003 7:21:08 PM PDT by
alwaysconservative
(I like everyone else's tag better than mine.)
To: PhiKapMom
You hit the nail on the head. I agree with your assessment. These so-called purists have done nothing but hurt and divide our party while standing on principle.
To: PhiKapMom
Personally I think Simon and McClintock should get a clue and back Arnold who can win. Neither of those two stand a chance to get elected! And you come to that conclusion by??????....
72 posted on
08/10/2003 8:15:54 PM PDT by
Dan from Michigan
("This ain't no place for a nervous person." - Mickey Redmond)
To: PhiKapMom
Please do not tell us in California how to vote...thanks
77 posted on
08/10/2003 9:09:29 PM PDT by
alphadog
(die commie scum)
To: PhiKapMom
Well, I agree with you, as usual ---- I've been calling the ultra ultra right wing "purists" but I think you're onto something. Let's hang that RINO label on the little group on the far right!
To: PhiKapMom
Good point:inflexabiity equals failure.Ronald Reagan said that if he disagreed 2o percent of the time with a candidate, that means that there is 80 percent agreement.And that's sufficient in most or all cases.There's never been a successful candidate for Office that pleases everyone.
To: PhiKapMom
Think about it -- only one group threatens to sit home and not vote and actually did in 2000 which almost cost Bush the election -- the ultra right which includes the Keyes faction of the Republican Party! Seems to me they are the Republican in Name Only part of Republicans since they didn't vote for President Bush or stayed home. As Keyes said in 2000, he was going to sit back and say He Told Us So when President Bush lost in November. I don't call that a "real" Republican! Take me off your ping lists, please.
I never thought you would descend to falsehoods.
I'm very disappointed.
To: PhiKapMom
I respectfully disagree with you. A Republican who cannot pull the lever for someone who does not support or advance Republican ideals is not a RINO, but the candidate for whom he or she will not vote IS a RINO, because that candidate has shown he or she does not support or advance Republican ideals. Michael Bloomberg, the current mayor of NYC, is a RINO: there is nothing Republican about him, and he only switched parties because he got into a snit with some Dems who refused to support him. Richard Riordan, the former mayor of Los Angeles, and a very close Scharzennegger ally, is a RINO, as well: he is pro-abortion, pro gun-control, pro homosexual "rights," and is overall a social liberal.
To: PhiKapMom
These non-voters/non-supporters yet want to tell the rest of us that we are RINO's, but yet we vote in every election and probably 99% of us vote straight Republican. Something is wrong with this picture! Worth repeating. Over and over and....
121 posted on
08/11/2003 6:26:32 AM PDT by
Smogger
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