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Simply Red
The New York Times ^ | August 10, 2003 | MARK ROTELLA

Posted on 08/10/2003 5:03:39 AM PDT by sarcasm

TO me, nothing is more comforting than a glass of Montepulciano and a bowl of spaghetti and meatballs. At the end of the workweek, I like to relax, to eat with friends at a place that feels like home, one where I will be greeted by the maître d', who, although he doesn't know me, will treat me as if he does.

And for someone like me, an Italian-American in his 30's who grew up with Italian food as the ultimate comfort food, the old-style Italian restaurants offer service and food that, while not innovative, always satisfies. In the old-fashioned Italian restaurants, what many call red sauce restaurants, I know I'll get Old World treatment - if not old Italy, then definitely old New York.

At these family-run establishments, the waiters - almost always male - are typically dressed in black bow ties and crisp white shirts. Stepping into them is like stepping into the early 20th century, the height of Italian immigration to the United States.

Red sauce restaurants are very different from their newer Italian brethren, the ones that feature northern or Tuscan cuisine, the places with glossy, high-tech décor and waiters reciting a seemingly endless list of elaborate specials. At the older places, both cuisine and setting feel familiar and comfortably dated.

These places, which had their beginnings in the early 20th century, were once ubiquitous in New York, at least in the city's many Italian neighborhoods - in Little Italy, of course, and in Belmont in the Bronx, and in such Brooklyn neighborhoods as Bensonhurst, Williamsburg and Carroll Gardens. They were typically run by immigrants from southern Italy and were so named because many of the dishes were covered in thick tomato sauce. These restaurants were run by Italians whose roots were in southern Italy, but the food was Americanized.

And although the term red sauce sometimes has a negative edge now, the restaurants, in their warmth and simplicity, continued to proliferate even into the early 70's and recall an era when going out for dinner was a big deal, even for middle-class families. Once there were scores of such places in New York and in cities around the country, and though their numbers have dwindled sharply, a number of famous places remain, among them Gino on the East Side of Manhattan and F. Illi Ponte in TriBeCa, Monte's Italian in Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn, and Dominick's on Arthur Avenue in the Bronx.

But starting in the late 1970's and 80's, many of the neighborhoods these restaurants served experienced a drop in population, as large numbers of Italians departed for the suburbs. As they left, many of the old restaurants closed, their decline reflecting not only the city's changing ethnic makeup but also a shifting, and more sophisticated, restaurant scene.

It was during these years that Tim Zagat, publisher of the Zagat Survey guidebooks, noticed a change in the city's Italian restaurants. "There was an enormous growth of northern restaurants in the 1980's and 90's,'' he said. "And these restaurants became more upscale.''Bamonte Name Is Alive

One of the city's best-known red sauce restaurants, Bamonte's in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, opened in 1900. Bamonte's, on Withers Street between Union and Lorimer Avenues, predates the hulking Brooklyn-Queens Expressway above it, and the restaurant, with its unassuming faux-stone facade, would go unnoticed if it weren't for a 1940's-era sign. Once inside, you are carried back to a long-gone era, especially in the dining room, which is decorated with worn red carpet, thick red curtains with gold trim and brass chandeliers. A friend and I had made our way to Bamonte's in an effort to locate what was left of the city's red sauce restaurants.

Tables were filled with middle-aged couples, groups of men, quartets of older women, and a young couple with tousled hair and piercings. Everyone except the young couple was dressed for an evening out, the men in jackets, the women in skirts. A visitor in jeans, even with a buttoned-down shirt and a jacket, felt underdressed. Gray-haired waiters in tuxedos hurried about the floor.

Martinis were served gracefully, not "in bucket-size glasses," as my friend observed. Our waiter, Silvio Ferlich, who was born in Trieste and came to the United States in 1965, had been working at Bamonte's for the last 30 years.

The Bamonte name is very much alive here: Anthony, a third-generation owner, took over the restaurant in the 1960's from his father, who had followed in the footsteps of his father, Pasquale. Anthony's youngest daughter, Nicole, helps around the restaurant, and his oldest daughter, Laura, runs an Italian bakery nearby called Laura Bamonte's Bakery.

But it is his middle daughter, Lisa, a 33-year-old culinary-school graduate, who has taken the reins. Had her culinary background prompted her to change the menu? "Not really,'' she replied with a laugh. "Maybe I'll add a daily special from time to time."

As the waiter arrived with the appetizers that are common in red sauce restaurants - clams casino, mussels in marinara sauce, stuffed eggplant - Ms. Bamonte pointed to a couple a few tables away who seemed to be in their 70's.

"See that table over there," she said. "They were married here 50 years ago."

Pointing to a table in the far corner, she added, "And that's where Tommy Lasorda sits whenever he flies in from California."

At these restaurants, you don't have to be famous to feel looked after. At Bamonte's, the main dining room, with its dark wainscoting, exudes hominess.

Across the room sat a man dining by himself. With his slight silver mustache, tweed sports jacket and matching tie and pocket square, he could have been an Italian William Faulkner. He nodded and raised a glass.

Al Caracciolo, a local developer and general contractor who was dining at Bamonte's this evening, came by with his drink to reminisce about the neighborhood. He and his wife had moved to Long Island but after a few years - "We kept getting broken into" - decided to move back to the city, to Forest Hills, Queens.

"My wife died a few years ago," Mr. Caracciolo said. "But I still come here. I still see familiar faces, not as many but enough." He smiled. "I don't want to brag, but my wife looked just like Maureen O'Hara."

At the next table sat a tiny man slumped in his chair, known to everyone as Uncle Louie. Louis Mezzanotte, who is 96, came to the United States in 1922; with him were his younger sister, Marie, his daughter and his son-in-law, a gravestone sculptor who lives on Long Island.

"I remember milking cows in the morning as a kid," Mr. Mezzanotte said. "Just two streets away from here, on Metropolitan Avenue."

He recalled a time when on some nights only men would come to Bamonte's, to watch the Dodgers or gather for the "Gillette Friday Night Fights." The floor was covered in sawdust then, and for the price of a drink you would get an endless quantity of mussels marinara or sautéed tripe.

Asked how the neighborhood had changed, he answered the way most people at the restaurant did: "Not much." Maybe they didn't want to feel that they had been left behind. But the fact is, for some people, the neighborhood really hadn't changed, if only here in Bamonte's.

Patsy's, Sinatra, the Yankees

It was a visit to Patsy's on West 56th Street near Eighth Avenue that inspired my search for the city's other red sauce restaurants. Patsy's offers a glimpse into what I imagined to be my family's past, a time when Italian restaurants, like Italian-Americans, were making their way into mainstream culture. Opened in 1944 by Pasquale Scognamillo (his son, Joe, now runs the restaurant, and his grandson Sal is the head chef), Patsy's was the place Frank Sinatra held court and the Yankees celebrated their World Series victories back when baseball players lived middle-class lives. After one victory, Sinatra picked up the check for the entire team.

Patsy's, which has recently been closed for renovations but plans to reopen Aug. 15, continues to serve theatergoers and patrons of Carnegie Hall and Lincoln Center. And although the décor has changed over time, the corner booths are still a haven for the likes of Tony Bennett, who eats there several times a month, quietly sketching patrons between bites. Joe Scognamillo, always dressed impeccably in a dark suit and tie, greets diners at the door, while his wife, Rose, stands behind the counter at a 50's-era cash register. In the back of the upstairs dining room, he proudly shows off the section once reserved for Sinatra and his friends, along with a private entrance from the street.

"He was always with friends," Mr. Scognamillo said of Sinatra. "But there was one time, I remember as a boy, when he had no friends." It was the 50's, and Sinatra, just dumped by both Ava Gardner and his record label, had walked into the restaurant by himself and sat down. At the end of the meal, Sinatra asked the owner what he was serving for Thanksgiving, which was the next day. Aware that Sinatra had not seen the "closed for Thanksgiving" sign on the door, the elder Mr. Scognamillo replied, "Whatever you like."

After Sinatra left, the owner took down the sign and announced to the staff: "Tomorrow we are open. Everyone, please come, and bring your family. I don't want Mr. Sinatra to eat alone."

The son had fond and vivid memories of those days.

"People used to do business on a handshake," he said. "We understood when times were tough for people, and we always supported our customers when they needed it. My father remembers letting Rosemary Clooney run a tab when she was starting out."

Nibbling biscotti and sipping espresso, a bottle of sambuca nearby, it was easy to imagine a lonely Sinatra being cared for by Pasquale Scognamillo and his staff.

'You All Eat'

Manducatis, a red sauce restaurant on Jackson Avenue in Long Island City, Queens, is a relatively youthful 27 years old, but it has the feeling of a village trattoria. The large, tile-floored front room is empty of everything but a bar, a couple of tables covered with newspapers in Italian and English, and a television tuned to an Italian news station; the three back rooms have low ceilings with exposed beams.

"I moved to Long Island City from Naples in 1954," said Vincenzo Cerbone, the owner, who was dressed this evening in a modest brown suit. "And with this restaurant, I just want to make a living like I did in Italy. I don't need a lot."

Manducatis, which is Latin for "you all eat," is something of a hideaway in the shadow of Manhattan. Once the streets were lined with brownstones, but during World War II they were replaced by factories. Just a few houses remain, including one that incongruously houses the Titanic Historical Society, a brownstone covered with ivy and flowers, and decorated with a water fountain and plaster angels in each window. Although Long Island City has far fewer Italians than it once had, there is still an Italian presence in the neighborhood.

Mr. Cerbone says that his clientele includes a number of famous people eager to escape the scene in Manhattan but he declines to name names. "Of course, don't write who they are," he said. "They come here to get away from that."

As Mr. Cerbone spoke, his son, Anthony, brought out two bowls, one filled with gnocchi with broccoli rabe and garlic, the other pappardelle with tomatoes, mushrooms and basil. Anthony Cerbone, who is in his early 40's and bookish in his wire-rimmed glasses, was born in Naples, raised in Queens and studied at the University of Bologna, but decided to return to the family business to help his father. He declines to discuss his reasons for returning more explicitly, but watching father and son together in the restaurant, working seamlessly side by side, it is clear that a powerful bond exists between them.

The Past Is Present

Red sauce restaurants are a living link to the past, a link between Old World and New World, a link between generations. And typically, as with a Patsy's and Manducatis, the family business is passed along to the next of kin. But at Bamonte's, the next of kin is a woman and she has not always had an easy time.

Lisa Bamonte's parents wanted a traditional life for their daughter, one that would include a family, not the long hours that running a restaurant demands. As the next generation, she is filling a traditional role, but as a woman, she is doing it in a nontraditional way. And she is hoping that she will have both a family and a career in the restaurant business.

But in many red sauce restaurants, the past is as present as the future.

"I remember, when I was younger," Mr. Bamonte said as he sat with his daughter and Mr. Ferlich, the waiter, one quiet afternoon recently, "walking out to the boccie court we had out back and watching Carl Furillo, Pee Wee Reese and Duke Snider of the Dodgers laughing and playing."

The back of the restaurant has a view of the entire kitchen through glass doors enclosed in brass. Through those doors, the octogenarian chef, Charlie Caligari, brought out bowls of tortellini in brodo. Mr. Caligari, a tall, blue-eyed man who resembles a thin Giuseppe Garibaldi, has been running the kitchen for 30 years.

"The closing of the factories has hurt the lunch business over the years," Mr. Bamonte said. "But we still stay open for the neighbors." A few tables away, two priests from St. Cecilia's Church were eating lunch.

He brought out a menu from the 1940's. The food was almost identical, except that an entire three-course meal could be had for under $10. A prix fixe menu from 1912, written in Italian, showed that back then the restaurant offered a full meal and wine for only $3.

Mr. Ferlich reminisced about all the Italian restaurants that once lined East 48th Street in Manhattan. "But these restaurants are all gone now," he said.

I didn't have to ask what happened to them. On my search for old-style Italian restaurants I ventured north to East Harlem, an uptown Little Italy early in the 20th century, in search of a restaurant called Andy's Colonial that once stood on the corner of 116th street and First Avenue. Andy's was known as the accessible alternative to its popular neighbor, Rao's. Unable to find it, I walked into a restaurant whose facade I'd seen in old photos. It was a trendy, South American-inspired restaurant.

I asked one of the bartenders, dressed in black T-shirt and jeans, if this used to be Andy's. "Yeah," he replied dismissively. "We bought the restaurant when Andy died of a heart attack a couple years ago."

His comment summed up both the appeal and the poignancy of these places. These restaurants exist because the entire family is involved. When the last family member dies, the restaurant dies, too. "If it weren't for my daughter," Mr. Bamonte said. "I'd throw a lock on the place."

But Ms. Bamonte likes the way the neighborhood has changed. "I'm finding now that people are coming back,'' she said. "My friends who moved out miss the neighborhood, miss the sense of family."


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To: carlo3b
Cut that out! I'm now ravenous.
41 posted on 08/10/2003 8:14:03 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Not as hard as you would think, this was a feature in one of our restaurants in New York (Le Pavillon).... but oh so delicious.
Lobster Ravioli with Crab meat Cream Sauce

Lobster Ravioli:

  • 2 ounces unsalted butter
  • 1 clove garlic, chopped
  • 1 tablespoon chopped shallots
  • 16 ounces cooked lobster meat
  • 4 ounces cooked snow crab meat
  • 2 ounces Cognac
  • 2 ounces ricotta
  • Salt
  • Pepper
  • 1 tablespoon chopped chives
  • Pasta dough, recipe follows
  • Egg white, slightly beaten
Crab meat Cream Sauce:
  • 2 ounces unsalted butter
  • 1 tablespoon chopped shallots
  • 4 ounces whole chunk Maryland crab meat
  • 2 ounces Cognac
  • 5 ounces tomato sauce
  • 10 ounces heavy cream
  • Salt
For the Lobster Ravioli:
1) In a large sauté pan, add the butter and melt.
2) Add the garlic and shallots and sauté until golden brown.
3) Add lobster, crab, and chives and sauté 2 to 3 minutes. Add Cognac and reduce for 2 minutes. Remove from heat and cool for 30 minutes, until room temperature.
4) Chop lobster mixture into small chunks. In a large bowl, combine lobster mixture and ricotta and mix well.
Season with salt and pepper.

Lay out the first piece of pasta dough on the table and place 1/4 ounce mounds of stuffing 2 inches apart. Using a pastry brush, brush egg white around each bit of stuffing, making the dough damp not wet. Take the second piece and cover the bottom piece with the stuffing. Press around each ravioli being careful not to squeeze the stuffing out. Using a round ravioli cutter, cut each ravioli round and put on a sheet pan sprinkled with semolina. Gently place ravioli in boiling water and cook for 8 to 10 minutes, or until al dente.

For the sauce:
1) Using a 12-inch sauté pan at medium heat, add butter, shallots, and sauté until shallots are translucent.
2) Add the crab meat and sauté for about 2 to 3 minutes.
3) Remove the sauté pan from the burner and add Cognac then place pan back on the heat to cook off the alcohol. (Please beware: the Cognac will create a large flame.) Once the flame stops, add the tomato sauce and cream with salt and cook
until it reduces half way and becomes creamy. Add the cooked ravioli to the sauce and let cook together for about 1 minute before serving.
Garnish with chives.

Pasta Dough:

  • 8 ounces durum flour
  • 8 ounces semolina
  • 1 egg
  • Water, as needed
  • Pinch salt
Add all the ingredients into a large mixing bowl until all
ingredients are blended. Place mixture on countertop and knead until
the texture is smooth and well mixed. Separate the pasta dough into 2
equal pieces and put one piece aside. Flour the first piece, just
enough to prevent sticking and roll out with a rolling pin to about
1/8th-inch thick. Repeat procedure with second piece making it as
close to the shape as the first.

42 posted on 08/10/2003 8:21:43 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
I give up. I'm now going out for lunch.
43 posted on 08/10/2003 8:28:54 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Ha!... suffer, I have sauce on the stove, the old fashion kind that you can't pass the pot without lifting the lid, and dunking the hard crusted bread down into it, and dripping it on your t-shirt (assuming you are wearing one)...LOLOL
44 posted on 08/10/2003 8:33:32 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: jocon307
VEAL/CHICKEN PARMIGIANA

3 lb. veal/chicken cutlets  (8 cutlets)(6 chicken boneless skinless)
3 c. Italian seasoned bread crumbs
1 c. flour
1 egg
1 1/2c. milk
1/2c. vegetable oil
1 bell pepper
8 slices Mozzarella cheese
1 can sliced mushrooms (fresh if you have them)
Salt and Pepper
Your Favorite Spaghetti Sauce

    Salt and pepper cutlets. Mix egg and milk together, dip the cutlets into the flour, then the egg mixture and then into seasoned bread crumbs. Fry in oil until browned. In casserole spread a little sauce on bottom. Put cutlets in on top with a little sauce. Then put mushrooms and two slices of mozzarella cheese on each cutlet. Top with a slice of bell pepper and cook until hot and bubbly, about 45 minutes at 350 degrees.

45 posted on 08/10/2003 8:36:30 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: sarcasm
N train, no?
46 posted on 08/10/2003 8:40:23 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: sarcasm
In Brooklyn, I would encourage you to try Areo and Da Tomasso. In Queens, Piccolo Venezia. Wonderful old time rich, red, full bodied sauce...yummmmm
47 posted on 08/10/2003 8:44:10 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Copy that! Will try it soonest. Hubby says I don't pound the veal enough so I'll try to improve on that count. Thanks!
48 posted on 08/10/2003 8:54:01 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: sydney smith
Oh, the effects of affluence. In the '60's and '70's the ethnics couldn't wait finally 'make it'. The minute they had enough $$ to get out of the ethnic neighborhoods they fled to 'the country'. Now 'the country' is the 'burbs'.

*Not only affluence but to many of these ethnics, being American was looking,dressing,talking,acting like an American. It wasn't American to be called Ralph Lipshitz, but it's American to be called Ralph Lauren. Up till recently, many Americans of Italian descent changed their name. Of course, many wanted houses instead of saltwater flats, tenements and ghettos where most Suthern Italians were shoveled into when they exited Ellis Island.

That was the end of the ethnic neighborhoods and they deteriorated as minorities moved in and we were left with blocks of old folks interspersed with poor minorities.

*Squalor exists where people of an underclass exist, where you warehouse them and stuff them. Depends on the neighborhood. My father grew up in an pre-depression Italian tenement, and believe me, the rich, WASPY types on Long Island cried shame about those 'filthy rags moving in'.

This clearly resulted in a loss of identity for those 2nd and 3rd generation Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, etc. They are now searching, in vain, for something that will tell them who they are. Like restaurants. And ethnic food---made in restaurants. Kind of sad this article, in my opinion.

*This method is searching for roots is not uncommon in other people searching for roots they think they lost. The only person responsible for retaining connections to one's ethnicity and peoples, is that person themselves. I grew up in a very ethnic household, West Indian and Italian, and EVERY DAY was ethnicity but it wasn't forced. Both my parents are immigrants, but they didn't ditch their way of life to fit in. I live on Long Island and the guido-wannabes make me laugh. They make me laugh as much as those blacks who run around talking about their 'african' heritage sporting kufis and muslim names. Besides do you really need an ethnicity to tell you who you are? I think there are more important things in life.

You are right. This article is sad. Almost as sad as the show 'The Restaurant' with Rocco DiSpirito. I think you would like it... like throwing food at your tv!
49 posted on 08/10/2003 9:33:50 AM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: mystery-ak
anybody in the St. Louis area knows that if you want real Italian food, you go to *The Hill*...

Ah, the Hill!! Home of Yogi Berra and the best Italian food in St.Louis. I wish I wasn't 100 miles away from there. I could go for some Cunneto's canneloni about now, or an Amaghetti's special for watching the Cards tonight.

50 posted on 08/10/2003 10:16:23 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (What is the right amount of clothing to take on a three hour tour???)
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To: Lawgvr1955
Amaghetti's meatball sandwich is my favorite...Im 100 miles away too, I always stop at the Hill when in town to visit my relatives.....Can't remember the name of the bakery, but it's a major stop for my family to load up on treats to bring home.
51 posted on 08/10/2003 10:20:58 AM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: Lawgvr1955; piasa
I attended their grand opening in the mid 70's..a great family, and wonderful food.. Vince and Joey Cunetto.. WOW does that bring back memories..
52 posted on 08/10/2003 10:23:05 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b; piasa; mystery-ak; sarcasm
I attended their grand opening in the mid 70's..a great family, and wonderful food.. Vince and Joey Cunetto.. WOW does that bring back memories..

To me that is part of the charm of family restaraunts, the memories. Thinking of the Hill reminds me of family and friends (now deceased or moved away) and happy times. For some reason the best times I recall are in "mom and pop" places and not the chains. Probably part of the special treatment you get in a family place enhances the experience.

53 posted on 08/10/2003 10:37:18 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (What is the right amount of clothing to take on a three hour tour???)
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To: carlo3b
I've been to Piccolo Venezia - excellent food.
I had to settle
for pizza
for lunch

54 posted on 08/10/2003 10:48:18 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: carlo3b
Carlo, I was just about to ping you when I saw your post.

YES, please, PLEASE give us a recipe for rich, red pasta.

All the Italian restaurants I've been in for several years (including NYC) have served watery sauce that doesn't even cover the pasta. In fact, they serve pasta in a soup bowl to contain the pathetic sauce, and the drowned pasta is sitting on the bottom of the bowl. GAK!

But, Carlo, I'm not Italian and I don't know from fresh tomatoes. Do you have a recipe that doesn't call for fresh tomatoes? Anything else, I'll happily do. YUM!

Now I'll go back and read your other recipes.
55 posted on 08/10/2003 11:07:15 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: kitkat
Ok, you asked, and these are the real thingys. The first is a true greaseball gravy.. rich, garlic, oregano, bread dippin sauce! Just remember, if you ask any Italian family how to make the real thing, you will get a fight about which way to do it, even if they live under the same roof... Bwhahhahahhahhah
OLD FASHION ITALIAN MEAT SAUCE

This recipe makes plenty of sauce for two meals, so enjoy some with this menu and freeze the remainder for another time. The sauce is great over tortellini, penne or fusilli.

  • 1 tablespoon olive oil
  • 1 medium onion, chopped
  • 1 Tablespoon of dried Parsley
  • 3/4 pound extra-lean ground beef
  • 2 large garlic cloves, chopped
  • 1 28 ounce can Italian plum tomatoes (yes, you may use tomato sauce, but it is different, trust me)
  • 1 16 ounce, or 2, 8-ounce cans tomato paste
  • 1 teaspoon dried basil
  • 1 Tablespoon dried oregano
  • 1/2 teaspoon garlic powder, (sprinkled over while boiling)
  • 1/8 teaspoon dried crushed red pepper (to taste)
  • Salt and pepper
  • Freshly grated Parmesan or Romano cheese
1) Heat oil in heavy, medium size saucepan over medium heat.
2) Add onion and cook until tender, stirring occasionally, about 8 minutes.
3) Add ground beef parsley, and fresh garlic and sauté until meat is no longer pink, breaking up with fork, about 5 minutes.
4) Puree tomatoes with juices in processor. Add to saucepan. Add canned tomato paste, herbs and dried crushed red pepper. Simmer 45 minutes to an hour and a half (until it thickens), stirring occasionally and seasoning sauce by taste, with salt and pepper. Some folks add a tablespoon of sugar, however we do not.

Cook pasta in large pot of boiling salted water until just tender but still firm to bite. Drain well. Place pasta in large bowl. Add enough sauce to coat; stir. Serve, passing cheese separately.
2-4 servings; can be easily doubled or tripled.


Italian Pasta with Bolognese Meat Sauce
This is quite different than southern Italian red sauce, and a traditional northern Italian tomato sauce. Did you know that northern Italians eat more Rice, and Polenta than pasta?
  • 2 Tbls olive oil
  • 1/2 c medium onion, finely diced
  • 3 garlic cloves, minced
  • 1/2 c minced carrot
  • 1/2 c chopped celery
  • 16 oz ground veal, or 8 oz each, lean beef and pork
  • 1 c whole milk
  • 2 x 12 - 14oz cans Italian plum tomatoes, diced, and drained
  • 2 tsp. Salt
  • 1 tsp. fresh ground pepper
  • 1/4 tsp. ground nutmeg
  • 12 oz your favorite pasta, prepared by following package instructions
  • 3 oz freshly ground Parmesan cheese, plus more available for guests tastes
  • 1 tsp. of fresh or 1/2 tsp. dry, parsley (optional)
1) In large heavy saucepan, heat oil; add onion and garlic and sauté until onion is translucent.
2) Add carrot and celery and sauté for about 3 minutes; add meat and cook, stirring constantly with a fork, until meat is crumbly and loses its pink color.
3) Add milk and cook over low heat, stirring frequently, until some of liquid has evaporated, about 3-5 minutes; add remaining ingredients and bring to a boil. Reduce heat and let simmer, stirring occasionally, until sauce is thick and creamy, about 30-45 minutes.
4) Meanwhile boil pasta, until it begins to stretch when pulled (al dente), quickly drain, and toss immediately into meat mixture, and sprinkle with cheese, and parsley. Toss as you serve each guest.
Makes 4-6 servings

56 posted on 08/10/2003 2:17:46 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: sarcasm
"At the next table sat a tiny man slumped in his chair, known to everyone as Uncle Louie."

Wow, they even name the chairs. The place IS homey.

57 posted on 08/10/2003 3:06:47 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: carlo3b
Carlo, Than......wait a minute. I have to cover the keyboard. I think the drool might get me electrocuted. There! OK. Typing might be sloppy, but...
................................THANK YOU...................................

That sounds just right. And no tomatoes to peel. Carlo, this is exactly what I've been searching for. Can't wait to eat red, rich spaghetti sauce again.

YUM.....SLURP!
58 posted on 08/10/2003 4:28:19 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: sarcasm
I've been to Piccolo Venezia also. About 5 or 6 years ago.

Very good.
59 posted on 08/10/2003 4:44:32 PM PDT by Jacvin
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To: kitkat
It was my pleasure,... enjoy!
60 posted on 08/10/2003 11:35:22 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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