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Editorial: Klamath by Karl?
Sac Bee ^ | 8/9/03 | Op/Ed

Posted on 08/09/2003 8:34:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:54:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

All versions of the story agree on this: On the morning of June 25, federal water officials told Klamath River valley farmers that they might soon face a cutoff in their water supply. Not as much water was flowing into Klamath Lake upstream as expected, and the federal Endangered Species Act might prevent the feds from lowering the lake further.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: bureau; environment; karl; klamath; reclamation; rove
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1 posted on 08/09/2003 8:34:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: farmfriend; madfly
Klamath Ping
2 posted on 08/09/2003 8:37:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...&&&&&&&&&...SuPPort FRee Republic.....www.TomMcClintock.com..... NEVER FORGET)
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm not at home, I don't have my list. I will ping tomorrow.
3 posted on 08/09/2003 8:39:06 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: NormsRevenge
Funn they didn't mention the TNC, the FWS, and their "wetlands."
4 posted on 08/09/2003 8:39:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: NormsRevenge
So under Clinton, the environmentalists and their strange fetish to tell other people how to live came first, and under Bush, the people of the regions come first.

Makes me rather glad about how I voted.
5 posted on 08/09/2003 8:40:25 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73
Bush just has to go, imagine, putting real people first.Gore would have taken care of the suckers.
6 posted on 08/09/2003 9:05:20 PM PDT by bybybill (first the public employees, next the fish and, finally, the children)
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To: NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; tubebender
Thanks for posting this.

Here is the reality instead of the ramblings of the left wing mediot who wrote this rambling.

It was of no use for the Watermelon Jihadists to call Rove or the President to try and use lowered water flows to destroy the farmers and ranchers of the Klamath basin and river.

Instead they called on Mike Thompson, the Castro/$oddomite lover, hater of George Bush Rat congressit, to spread his usual poison against the ranchers and farmers.

Mike Thompson without the Clintoon as president is just a lot of stinking and vile hot wind. So the ranchers and farmers continued to get their water. The TNC, Sierra Club and all of the Oregon Watermelon Jihadists were stopped in their tracks with their latest effort of rural cleansing of farmers and ranchers in the Klamath basin and down stream.

If Al Gore was president, there would be no water and damn few ranchers and farmers left in the basin and down river.
7 posted on 08/10/2003 6:12:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end," said Uday)
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To: NormsRevenge
Was there an author of this op-ed?
8 posted on 08/10/2003 8:03:44 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Unions are pistoff!!! They, like Carvile, call it WAR! "Workers Against Recall" Who let the dogs out)
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To: SierraWasp
None named, probably a collaborative piece, ran as an Opinion piece, Sac Bee.

It sure caught my eye...

I like to stay up on the Western WaterWars... a draining endeavor these days. ;-)

9 posted on 08/10/2003 8:29:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...&&&&&&&&&...SuPPort FRee Republic.....www.TomMcClintock.com..... NEVER FORGET)
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To: Grampa Dave
A Good Sunday Morning Bump to you, Gramps. It never ends, does it???
10 posted on 08/10/2003 9:47:15 AM PDT by AuntB (SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!)
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To: NormsRevenge; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

11 posted on 08/10/2003 10:47:47 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: NormsRevenge
Kulaks. Look it up. I may be a New York City boy, but I know
my history.
12 posted on 08/10/2003 11:05:07 PM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: NormsRevenge
BTTT
13 posted on 08/10/2003 11:17:22 PM PDT by hattend
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
14 posted on 08/11/2003 5:37:22 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Grampa Dave
"Watermelon Jihadists"...you do have a gift for a phrase, Dave! LOL!
15 posted on 08/11/2003 6:51:07 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes; AAABEST; Shermy; BOBTHENAILER
Watermelon Jihadists is a little clearer than saying, "Pro Communist Enviralists funded by the Opecker Princes and thugs to support the goals of Opec to weaken the US!"
16 posted on 08/11/2003 6:58:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end," said Uday)
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To: Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; farmfriend; AAABEST; SierraWasp
Rove -- or somebody else -- has Bush politically positioned to defend potato agriculture above all else. That's bad policy and bad politics. We note that in no version of this Klamath story did a Yurok Indian or Crescent City fisherman think of calling Rove for help.

Bad policy and bad politics? Where are these GEEKs coming from?

There was a big article in the WSJ about a week ago that I read. In essence this DOES have Rove's fingerprints all over it, and more power to 'em.

SAVE THE FARMS.

17 posted on 08/11/2003 7:24:28 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The GEEK is a Watermelon Jihadist posing as a news paper writer.

There are so many salmon the last few years, the professional fishers of the coast of Kalifornia have just one problem.

That is the due to the supply, they are getting less than $2/pound for ocean caught salmon.

We are able to buy fresh ocean caught salmon which has been transported, filleted and ready to cook from $4 per pound to a max of $7/pound.

That makes Salmon about the lowest priced fish in our markets and the best meat buy there is.

My wife, who apparently was an Alaskan Brown Bear in her previous life, can eat fresh salmon cooked in Weber 5-6 times per week. We buy extra salmon for each meal so she can have it for breakfast and lunch.

That is the reality of the salmon population the geeks like this Watermelon Jihadists never address.

There are even more king salmon in Oregon this year. For the first time in over a decade, the professional fishers were allowed to harvest Springer Kings, (Salmon which come upstream in the early spring and are loaded with Omega and other oils, making them the best eating salmon). They were selling this delicacy in Oregon throughout the spring run for very reasonable per pound prices.
18 posted on 08/11/2003 7:32:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end," said Uday)
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To: Grampa Dave
That is the reality of the salmon population the geeks like this Watermelon Jihadists never address.

No kidding.

Man those are some good prices, at least $1.50 per pound less than we pay up here.

19 posted on 08/11/2003 7:45:34 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: NormsRevenge
The situation here was that the water regime is based on the water year type. The BoR changed the water year type in the middle of the month in the middle of growing season. Folks had crops planted in the field under the reasonable expectations that they would not be suddenly cut off and thrown into financial ruin.

The unexpected change in water year type meant that the month's budgeted allotment had already been used and the water would need to be cut until the next months allotment was available. Of course, crops need water to live and cannot survive and wait under that sort of budget. The sudden change was unrealisticm, impractical and would cause extreme financial crisis to hundreds of farmers.

There is also the question of the "water bank." Farmers participated with the expactations that water would actually be saved and stored in reserve for occassions like this. Not true. The water "saved" had already been released downstream in excess of the water year type regime set for the Klamath River because of the demands of the tribes and their pointing to last year's fish kill.


20 posted on 08/11/2003 10:58:03 AM PDT by marsh2
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