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Was Hitler homosexual?
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Posted on 08/09/2003 7:28:17 PM PDT by chance33_98

Was Hitler homosexual?

In The Hidden Hitler, author Lothar Machtan looks between the sheets for the key to Adolf Hitler. Marius Benson assesses what he finds.

It was a man's world at the top of the Third Reich.

Among Hitler's henchmen there were no henchwomen.

There were wives and secretaries, and there was Eva Braun, the simple and loyal dumpling who became Mrs H in the final hours of the Reich.

But there was no Madam Mao, no Lady Macbeth.

Traditional accounts of Hitler's love life tend to be short. The list of his hatreds is longer and more important.

Before Eva Braun was Geli Raubal, the daughter of Hitler's half sister. In 1928 Hitler asked his half-sister, Angela to be his housekeeper, she agreed and moved in with her 20-year-old daughter.

Over the next three years Geli was often seen with "Unlce Alf" as she called the man who was on his way to being Germany's leader. In 1931, at the age of 23, Geli was found in her uncle's flat, shot dead by his pistol.

But that is another story, not the one Lothar Machtan is pursuing in The Hidden Hitler.

Hitler enjoyed the company of women — he liked playing the gallant gent with elaborate displays of courtesy and good manners.

But women were a sidelight in a life lived mainly with men. In that world there is at times a sense of excitement that seems to have a sexual edge. Albert Speer, the architect who became the closest thing Hitler had to a friend, described a thrill in being with Hitler. The emotion was not expressed physically, but it sounds far from purely mental.

Hitler himself had sometimes foppish mannerisms, limp salutes, precise dress and a theatrical sense in uniforms and parades which provide Machtan with circumstantial evidence of a homosexual sensibility.

But when it comes to actual proof of homosexual activity, the author's case rests largely on one man who was with Hitler in the trenches of World War 1.

Hans Mend was a dispatch rider when Hitler was a runner of messages. In the key account for Machtan, given in 1939, Mend says Hitler was known as Crazy Adolf in the trenches and that he flew into rages, even frothing at the mouth.

Mend also observes, in his 1939 recollections, that Hitler "never looked at women". How many men spent time in the trenches of the western front girl-watching is not made clear.

But then Mend provides the description for Machtan's “smoking revolver”: "In 1915 we were billeted in the Le Febre brewery at Fournes. We slept in the hay. Hitler was bedded down at night with 'Schmidl' [Ernst Schmidt], his male whore. We heard a rustling in the hay. Then someone switched on his flashlight and growled: 'Take a look at those two nancy boys'."

This seems damning, but Mend is not the most reliable of witnesses. He was a petty criminal who, as Hitler's fame grew, made a small living trading on memories of his old comrade in arms.

His accounts were tailored to audiences and times. His early recollections were of a brave Hitler in the trenches, with no mention of rustling in the hay. His account of the hayride with Schmidt was given in 1939 to opponents of Hitler.

Mend might have been telling the truth, but there are equally good grounds for thinking he was not.

Regardless, Machtan, having established to his own satisfaction the case for Hitler's homosexuality, then bounds off to explain this as the motivation behind key actions.

In 1934 Ernst Rohm, the head of the Nazi SA — and a known homosexual — was executed along with many supporters, by Hitler loyalists. This purge, the Night of the Long Knives, is a key moment in Hitler's ensuring his supremacy in the Party and it is analysed in all substantial histories of the time.

Until now, it has been seen as a murderous power play. Machtan sees it differently — his Hitler is motivated by a desire to silence Rohm as a man who could have revealed the Fuehrer's sexual orientation.

The case here, as throughout Machtan's treatise, starts from a wobbly premise (Hitler was gay, see evidence above) then proceeds by way of inference, assumption and guesswork to its tendentious conclusion.

It is a pattern repeated throughout The Hidden Hitler, which at times provides a titillating read, but reveals no new truth about a man who is still only partly known, even after 120,000 books.


TOPICS: Germany; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bookreview; gaydolfhitler; hiddenhitler; homosexual
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1 posted on 08/09/2003 7:28:17 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
If he were, he should be the poster child of modern Liberalism.
2 posted on 08/09/2003 7:29:42 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (When news breaks, we fix it.)
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To: chance33_98
Wouldn't be the first I heard of this. Several books I've read about Hitler also have mentioned this. He wouldn't be the first historical figure to switch hit. I'm just wondering how the two new films will portray Alexander the Great. Leo DiCaprio is the perfect fit, IMHO.
3 posted on 08/09/2003 7:32:56 PM PDT by rintense
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To: chance33_98
I skimmed the book and found it pretty unconvincing.

OTOH, the mustache, the tight leather, etc. are all pretty damning.

4 posted on 08/09/2003 7:35:58 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: chance33_98
Hitler queer? With one testicle and a girlfriend that shot herself possibly because he wanted kinky sex, anything is possible considering no speculation can ever proven and the dead tell no lies.
5 posted on 08/09/2003 7:37:02 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: chance33_98
Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything here indicated he was gay. I doubt that he was.
6 posted on 08/09/2003 7:38:36 PM PDT by nmh
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To: lilylangtree
The girlfriend that shot herself was his neice, I do believe.
7 posted on 08/09/2003 7:39:35 PM PDT by riri
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To: nmh
Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything here indicated he was gay.

Everyone is gay nowadays from some of the stuff I have seen, and if you say you're not you're repressing yourself. Or something like that ;) Now I have to run and redecorate my room.....

8 posted on 08/09/2003 7:42:06 PM PDT by chance33_98 (http://home.frognet.net/~thowell/haunt/ ---->our ghosty page)
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To: riri
No one has ever determined why she killed herself, right? Plus she and Adolph were pretty close.
9 posted on 08/09/2003 7:42:24 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: chance33_98
This is going straight into my "Who Gives a Sh*t?" file, right alongside Demi Moore and her boyfriend, what Kobe Bryant was wearing at his hearing, and Larry Flynt's campaign for governor.

You know historians are bored when they start speculating about what floated Hitler's boat.
10 posted on 08/09/2003 7:43:24 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: chance33_98
If Hitler was an Episcopalian, he could be a Bishop.
11 posted on 08/09/2003 7:43:24 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Convicted felons for Kerry, McCarthy was right!)
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To: chance33_98
This book proves that Bill Clinton is gay.
All the signs were there, Algore as VP, Steffanopolos
the Btboy, the whole Monica set up to make him look
macho and win the womens vote.

Queer as a three dollar bill.
12 posted on 08/09/2003 7:44:01 PM PDT by tet68
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To: riri
The girlfriend that shot herself was his neice, I do believe.

True.

13 posted on 08/09/2003 7:48:12 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: chance33_98
Become a switchhitter and double your chances for dates.
14 posted on 08/09/2003 7:50:37 PM PDT by nathanbedford
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I don't believe there is a gnetic link to homosexuality but if there is I am convinced whatever it is is rampant in the German make-up.
15 posted on 08/09/2003 7:52:22 PM PDT by riri
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To: tet68
Sounds about right.
16 posted on 08/09/2003 7:52:33 PM PDT by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947.)
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To: chance33_98
Did he prefer brawn over Braun?
17 posted on 08/09/2003 7:52:47 PM PDT by Consort
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To: chance33_98
IMO, he was. He had so many homosexual mannerisms.
18 posted on 08/09/2003 7:53:59 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Vote for Arnold)
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To: BunnySlippers
He liked antiques and panzis too....errr panzers.
19 posted on 08/09/2003 7:55:17 PM PDT by chance33_98 (http://home.frognet.net/~thowell/haunt/ ---->our ghosty page)
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To: chance33_98
The gays are just adding Hitler to a long list of famous people who were "supposed" to be gay

Abe Lincoln, The Apostle Paul, now Hitler.

Reaching into the bottom of the barrel for this one

20 posted on 08/09/2003 7:59:32 PM PDT by JZoback (Don't have such an open mind, your brain falls out)
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