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"And if we want *INNOCENT BABIES* to live, we should vote for *TOM McCLINTOCK* or *BILL SIMON*, not an *UNREPENTANT BABY KILLING RINO* like *SCHWARZENEGGER*!!!!!"

Yeah, because we ALL KNOW that the governor of CA is the one who makes all of the decisions, about abortion. He alone can override the Supreme Court.

Plus, McClintock is at 9% and Simon is at 7% so they are both surging ahead, and they and their supporters are in complete control, wield all of the power.

Great thinking. I'm impressed by yet another FR poster.

Great thinking. I'm impressed by yet another FR poster.

Republican hardliners in Arkansas threw out Tim Hutchinson who was a 100% guaranteed to vote against abortion and 100% guaranteed conservative vote on every issue and replaced him with Mark Pryor who is the exact opposite.

Why?

Because Tim divorced his wife and married another and they could stick up their noses and say "I did it for the principle of the thing, damn the consequences". Unfortunately the consequences are Mark Pryor votes against Catholic judicial nominees who are against abortion, votes against partial birth abortion, and votes on the wrong side of every issue. Things Hutchinson would never vote for.

But its not about actual votes and real things, its about feeling good about yourself because you acted out of "principle". Thats a lot more important than political reality and actual votes in the Senate, or real babies lives......isn't it?

In California we know Schwarzenegger can win if everyone falls in line with him. We are pretty sure that McClintock can't win as it stands now even though we favor him. But its better to have Bustamante in office than ever vote for Arnold.....isn't it?

The motto of the "establishment conservatives": "Endorse the Establishment Candidate."

I was here in 1999 and 2000. Everyone seems to think they have a right to demand get out of the race in the name of the Party.

They were telling Alan Keyes, Steve Forbes, and Gary Bauer out in late-1999 to support Bush when he had won nothing.

Indeed, one has to wonder why we bother with primaries and conventions. Why don't we just let conventional wisdom choose all of our nominees and then we can go and vote for our annointed candidates.

Do you believe seriously that every movement and every idea in this party should bow before the annointed one and let him ascend peacefully.

Should those who treasure the second amendment see their sacred right to defend themselves and their families pillaged by gun grabbers? Shall those who care about the unborn vote for someone who ears are deaf to the cries of the innocent?

Are we all to cow before you and your mighty wisdom or do you acknowledge a right to dissent? Do we have a right to feel that maybe the best thing to do isn't to put a pretty face on the ballot, but a man we know who has a core of principles, ideals, and values which are more in the line with the ideas of the founders?