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Wilson backs Schwarzenegger [Bush praises actor; Ueberroth says he will run]
Sacramento Bee ^ | August 9, 2003 | Sam Stanton and Gary Delsohn -- Bee Staff Writers

Posted on 08/09/2003 7:50:32 AM PDT by RonDog

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:54:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Gary Coleman entered the race BEFORE Arnold did. Thus, it is too late to do much about it. He has now stated he likes and supports Arnold, however.

Gary Coleman may be short but he's not stupid. From what I understand, he has pulled himself out of some very unfortunate situations that took place during his childhood.
201 posted on 08/09/2003 8:33:44 PM PDT by CarmelValleyite
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To: RonDog
Question: Can the Terminator fix what's wrong with California, with the state in the deficit it's in?

Schwarzenegger: Well, I can tell you that we have to clean house in Sacramento. The most important thing is that we bring business back to California. There are more businesses leaving California now than ever before. When businesses come back, revenue comes back, when revenue comes back we can afford all kinds of different programs that are very important. We want to make sure that the children are not left with without any books. We want to make sure that our children have the books, that they have their place in the classroom. We want to make sure hay they have after school programs. We want to make sure the mothers have affordable day care. We want to make sure the older folks have their care that they need. That everything has to be provided for the people. We have such a great state, there's no reason why we are in the state we are in today.

A lot is being said about this statement by Arnold, I think everyone is misunderstanding what he said.

All the programs that he mentions already exist, there are no new programs there at all, Arnold is simply pointing out that California can't afford those programs (already in place) because industry has left, which is why there is a deficit to begin with.

So, in order to fix the deficit and fund those programs already in place, income must be increased, and to do that, industry has to come back.

I guess Arnold could have stood there and sworn to terminate all those programs...there would be no more books for the kids in school, no after school care programs, no seats in classrooms, no more day care, no more help for the seniors.

Basically, by following the advise of the "true conservatives", he could have handed the victory to Bustamante via the backlash against the GOP the aforementioned stances will undoubtedly cause.

202 posted on 08/09/2003 8:49:00 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.)
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To: RonDog
"Yes, he's not a professional politician. And that's a disadvantage? The professional politicians are the ones who got California into this mess. This is a "throw the bum out" election, so the successful challenger will be the one who looks least like the bum. Gray Davis has been on the public payroll his entire adult life: he represents the full-time political class. Arnold represents the other California: entrepreneurial energy, wit and invention, the California that understands that if Hollywood and Silicon Valley were run by "qualified" people like Davis we'd still be watching flickering silents and you'd need union-approved quill-feathers to send e-mail."

Mark Steyn on The Gubernator

203 posted on 08/09/2003 9:03:36 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.)
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To: Kuksool
Bob Dornan is also supporting the Terminator.

That one is really puzzling to me, as B-1 Bob is so vehemently pro-life.

204 posted on 08/09/2003 9:08:36 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
I guess some CA conservatives are desperate for a victory.
205 posted on 08/09/2003 9:10:30 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Luis Gonzalez
LOL!

Also from Mark Steyn:

"...Whatever happens, he has played his opening hand at a crowded table brilliantly. Arnold has wanted to be Governor of California for two decades, but October 7 represents his best shot. For one thing, there's no primary election in a recall campaign.

In a normal election, Arnie wouldn't stand a chance of getting his watered-down "moderate Republicanism" past the death-before-electability crowd who dominate GOP primaries in California.

He's unsound on almost everything that matters to them. On the other hand, that supposedly puts him closer to the average voter...."


206 posted on 08/09/2003 9:41:53 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: BlackElk
Greetings,

I never new you were so passionate about Aaaaahnold. As I live in Cali-fornicate I am most interested. My question to you is what to do?

My experience is that fringe candidates like McClintock, or past losers like Simon cannot win. Also, as bad as you describe the Terminator, believe me when I say that Bustamante is worse. So if I vote for McClintock or Simon it is a wasted vote. It gives Bustamante a chance. If I vote for Aaaaaahnold, I might get some relief from Grey Doofus.

I just can't decide at this point. What do you think?

207 posted on 08/09/2003 10:20:04 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: B Knotts
You people are hung up on the Pro-Life stance. Amazing since a governor really can't change the law on abortion. The greatest President of our time, Reagan, was pro-life and look at what he did for the conservative cause. It's time for a lot of you to start looking at the Big Picture. You can't change things from the outside looking in.
208 posted on 08/09/2003 10:20:59 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Eala
have you heard about were Arnold said
he was ashamed of the Republican party
for impeaching Clinton?
209 posted on 08/10/2003 12:48:44 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: lilylangtree
McClintock is the man, no only is he better than
Simon, he is already ahead of Simon!
210 posted on 08/10/2003 12:51:39 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: novacation
The only way to bring back business to California is by cutting regulation and taking less money from them.

So if Arnhold brings back business it will be a huge change of direction for California. Only by bring in businesses that are currently fleeing will the state prosper again and that is the core of the solution to California’s economic problems.
211 posted on 08/10/2003 3:04:22 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Kuksool
B1 Bob, really?

Abel Maldonado is a staunch conservative as well.

No one can say we don’t live in interesting times…
212 posted on 08/10/2003 3:07:15 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: RonDog
IMO Arnold has many European socialist ideas, and I couldn't think of a better place to apply them than the People's Maoist Republic of California.
213 posted on 08/10/2003 6:59:34 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (y'all come back now...)
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To: Princeliberty
have you heard about were Arnold said he was ashamed of the Republican party for impeaching Clinton?

I'd heard about it, yes. Guess he's got some 'splainin' to do...

214 posted on 08/10/2003 7:55:42 AM PDT by Eala
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To: TheDon
We call what I am worried about: Innocent human lives and the state of your personal finances (which would be damaged by robotman in any case) are of a lot less concdern to me. Also the future of the GOP as a vehicle for American values.
215 posted on 08/10/2003 3:44:57 PM PDT by BlackElk ( It is always a good day to hunt RINOs without mercy!)
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To: BlackElk
Which innocent lives? As govinator, Arnold has line item veto power, as does Davis. Arnold, however, is the deficit terminator. So that will help all of our finances. Arnold will also bring alot of voters to the Republican party, both in Cali, and in the nation. Vote Arnie!!
216 posted on 08/10/2003 3:54:51 PM PDT by TheDon (Why do liberals always side with the enemies of the US?)
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