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Uncle Sam shocks some veterans with recall to duty
North Jersey.com ^ | August 3, 2003 | TOM DAVIS

Posted on 08/08/2003 6:19:20 PM PDT by demlosers

Army Capt. Richard Hinman says he's a "draftee" serving in a volunteer army.

Think about it, says Hinman. The West Point graduate, who left the military in 1999, didn't want to go to Iraq and Kuwait. But he got his orders on Feb. 8 and was sent overseas in May.

"I wanted to get out of this kicking-in-doors-with-guns kind of thing," said Hinman, who was looking forward to more time with his two children but is now serving at Camp Doha, Kuwait. "It was a real surprise."

And a shock, Hinman said in a telephone interview from Kuwait, because he was so unprepared. Even his old uniforms had been thrown away.

Hinman is an Individual Ready Reservist, one of about 300,000 former service members available for active duty in a time of crisis, according to the Pentagon. Each year, as thousands of military personnel finish their terms of active duty, they are placed on IRR status for a period that varies according to agreements they signed when they joined the service.

In some cases, a person on IRR status can be called up as many as 10 years after departure from the armed forces, the Pentagon says.

Although many people on IRR are never called back, the Department of Defense is relying on them more heavily as operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere stretch the military's manpower. And Hinman, who was enjoying civilian life, is returning to a life he had hoped to leave behind.

His wife, Josephine, who is living with her mother in Englewood Cliffs, had hoped so, too.

She recalled the "horror" she felt when her husband approached, carrying a FedEx envelope, with the letter from the Army inside. She was on a treadmill, in a gym at the family's Falls Church, Va., apartment complex, while their 11-year-old son and 9-year-old daughter were playing with friends.

"There was no explanation. He just knew he had to report," his wife said. "I said, 'What do you mean you got called back up?' There were no warnings that he may be one of the people tasked to go."

Military officials were unable to say how many IRRs have been activated, why Hinman was selected, or how long his IRR status will last. But they said they were surprised to hear that Hinman didn't appear to know the terms of his own reserve obligations.

"For a West Point grad to say he didn't understand his commitment is highly unusual," said Lt. Col. Dan Stoneking, a Pentagon spokesman.

Unlike the more widely known and larger group of Selected Reservists - who train one weekend a month and two weeks each year and get paid for it - IRRs have almost no contact with the military. It's sort of an on-call list for inactive service men and women, and their call-up is typically seen as a last resort during hostilities.

While Selected Reservists - and also most members of the National Guard - train routinely, many do not have the same breadth of experience as IRRs, who are all veterans of active duty. Many IRRs have specialized skills.

And in this war, the Pentagon says, every reservist in Iraq has played an important role in the toppling of Saddam Hussein's regime and maintaining the dangerous peacekeeping operations there.

The 36-year-old Hinman, who graduated from the U.S. Military Academy in 1988, has served three months in Iraq and Kuwait. He said his current job is briefing military officials, orally and in writing, on the progress of strategic operations.

His wife says her husband is a good writer, but much to her dissatisfaction, the Pentagon won't further explain why he was selected over so many thousands of others who were training regularly.

And she's confused as she watches others return to the States while he expects to stay overseas until February 2004.

She becomes anxious as she watches television reports of soldiers dying nearly every day, even though he is now far from the action and not involved in the door-kicking he spoke of. She did note that in June he was in Baghdad.

"At what point are you free?" she asked. "When he committed to West Point at 17, did he know he could be called back the rest of his life?"

IRR terms do expire, but Lt. Col. Bob Stone, an Army Reserve spokesman, said that because the nation has been in a state of emergency since the Sept. 11 attacks, the military must maintain its access to experienced veterans during crises.

That holds true in Iraq, where tensions remain high and it is time for some soldiers to return home. If someone doesn't understand that, Stone says, "they're probably not paying close enough attention."

The deployment of IRRs and the Inactive National Guard in war is nothing new, Stone said. Since the Selective Service System was eliminated 30 years ago, that "manpower pool" has become an important resource in a volunteer military, he said. In virtually every conflict since the Vietnam War, they have been called to duty, he said.

In Iraq, Stone said, the Marines even deployed some IRRs to serve in infantry units.

It is difficult to measure the enthusiasm or frustration level of the average IRR overseas.

Surely there are members of the IRR who welcome the opportunity to serve again. Grateful for years of military pay and benefits and training, they are motivated by a loyalty to their former comrades and a sense of duty.

The Pentagon could not provide a list of those who have been called up.

Hinman put The Record in contact with Maj. Joseph Way, who was also an IRR activated in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Way said in a telephone interview from Louisiana that he was upset to find himself thousands of miles from home until he was permitted to return to be with his terminally ill wife.

"I was about to go freaking bananas," Way said about his time in the Middle East.

Hinman said he served in Panama in 1989, a year after graduating from West Point, leaving his wife alone for 13 months. Since then, she said, she has raised their two children largely on her own, since he has served months at a time in places such as Peru and the Persian Gulf. She was glad in 1999, when he decided to leave the Army and join the Secret Service. But in that job, there was more travel, and more time away from home.

"Even in the Secret Service, he did a five-month school away from us," his wife said. "In the presidential campaign, he went to the Democratic National Convention, he went to the Olympics, and he went with [vice presidential candidate Joseph] Lieberman to a dinner. It was like literally every weekend he was gone."

Last year, Hinman took a job with the U.S. Foreign Service, which staffs embassies and consulates around the world, and the family lived in Virginia. They were planning to move to India this month, and the children were enrolled in international schools for the coming academic year, she said.

They looked forward to India because the job would have allowed for the most family time they've ever had. Now that plan, like the rest of them, has been scrapped.

"Our family are survivors, and we'll manage without him," Hinman's wife said. "But it's another year of not seeing his children. You only have 18 years of raising your children, and another year has gone by."

E-mail: davist@northjersey.com


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallschurch; irr; militaryfamilies; reservists; rotation
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1 posted on 08/08/2003 6:19:20 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: demlosers
This is a load of crap. Every active duty service member is aware of his inactive reserve time that follows his active service. After I got out of the Navy, I had two years of inactive reserve (meaning I didn't have to do the weekend thing, but they could call me back any time). When my final day on that list came, I knew it, said to my girlfriend "This is the last day they can call me back."

Then you get this schmoe here, a West Point grad no less, who acts astonished when he gets called up and actually calls himself a "draftee." Pardon me while I barf.

2 posted on 08/08/2003 6:24:16 PM PDT by squidly
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To: squidly
Ditto
3 posted on 08/08/2003 6:26:05 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: squidly
Why am I mad after reading this...this guy is an idiot.
4 posted on 08/08/2003 6:32:38 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: mystery-ak
I assume he got a free education on the taxpayers' expense at West Point.
5 posted on 08/08/2003 6:36:18 PM PDT by laconic
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To: demlosers
"...according to agreements they signed when they joined the service.."

Gotta read and understand that fine print Richie.

6 posted on 08/08/2003 6:38:33 PM PDT by jaz.357 (The beatings will continue until morale improves!)
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To: squidly
Absolutely, I agree wholeheartedly!
7 posted on 08/08/2003 6:39:06 PM PDT by Colonel Jim
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To: laconic
I believe enlisted soldiers have an an eight year obligation when they raise their right hand. So, if he serves four years and gets out, he's in the IRR for another four. Officers are subject to a different set of rules, though. But he had to know, that much is clear.
8 posted on 08/08/2003 6:40:41 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: squidly
I would agree that his ignorance is his own fault, (and mine was my fault...and apparently yours is your own fault) but the military does not advertise the facts. I know it does come as a shock, and in the Army at least, would have come as a shock to you too.

You don't drop out of the IRR list(at least officers) when your time commitment is up, you have to formally resign a second time.

I did not know that until recently, when other people who didn't realize that started getting called up. To make it worse, people, including me, who then tried to resign got a polite letter saying, "emergency...you can't." Its one thing to honor your time commitment...its another to get called up after that. For example, this officer graduated sometime before 1989 and left in 1999 ...so he fulfilled his entire commitment (for me it was 8 years, a minimum of 5 active duty...he was an earlier grad, and it may have been less). He had no formal obligation to the IRR...he just did not know the hoops to jump through, and the Army wasn't exactly pointing them out.

All that being said, he is a disgraceful whining bitch for calling himself a draftee and embarassing the rest of us. But the military personnel command isn't in the clear here either.
9 posted on 08/08/2003 6:41:12 PM PDT by blanknoone (There are only 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: laconic
...you assumed right...a good education wasted on an idiot.
10 posted on 08/08/2003 6:41:44 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: demlosers
"At what point are you free?" she asked. "When he committed to West Point at 17, did he know he could be called back the rest of his life?"

This is B.S.. This guy started at West Point in 1984, graduated in 1988 (all expenses paid by the USA, and an experience that can't be purchased), and he left active duty in 1999. At that point, his original obligation (used to be about six years, but I heard it was increased to 8 yrs; uncertain) should have been over. He was "regular Army) free to resign his commission, but instead chose to accept a transfer to the IRR. Why? He CHOSE to remain in the reserves, so he could accumulate 50-60 points a year through individual correspondence courses, and pick up his (pro-rated) 20 year retirement (1988-2008, with retirement pay based on time served since 1984; sweet deal). He could have walked away, but instead owes his country his service at time of war. Sorry.. but, life sucks sometimes.

I'm IRR. I could be activated, and in fact, will voluntarily re-affiliate as an O5 (Navy Commander) this year. I went IRR because I got to the point where (a) there were no more Select Reserve (SELRES, i.e. weekend warrior) jobs (i.e. "billets") for my senior grade, (b)because I was burned out, and (c) because I wanted to raise my kids. The Naval Reserve was never "1 weekend a month" in the jobs I held. In the months before Saddam invaded Kuwait, I was spending 2-3 weekends per month, plus about a half dozen evenings or 2-hour lunches at work per month keeping up with the active duty sailors that reported to me.

I left to coach Little League, to take my kids camping, and to be a "Dad" before they got too old. I forfeited any hope of future promotion (was lucky to be on a fast track), and never looked back. Now the kids are almost out of High School, 59 yrs old is heading my way far too fast, and I'm almost out of time to get 20 "good" years for a retirement, so I'm going back to work for the Naval Reserve.

I might get activated tomorrow. That's my choice. I didn't go to the Naval Academy. I didn't go through ROTC. I paid for my college. When my peers were out having fun on liberty on my first deployment, I was socking away every penny to pay off the college loans. I never complained. It was my choice to serve my country.

It was, and has been, and is, my privilege to serve my country, and an honor to do so as a Commissioned Naval Officer. It was my choice, and unlike these privileged, Congressionally appointed West Point whiners, I have no regrets. I won't volunteer to run off to Iraq now, because I love my wife and kids too much to do that. But I'll kiss 'em goodbye and go if I'm called, and with no regrets, because I honor my commitments.

With NO regrets .. SFS

11 posted on 08/08/2003 6:46:15 PM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: squidly
Gee he cpould be like me a retiree, who can be called on to return to active duty unit age 65.

Guess what you west point puke they call me , I pack my bags and gom saying when do you need me.

Officers some of them are a pain in the butt.

12 posted on 08/08/2003 6:46:32 PM PDT by dts32041 (So how do you like taxation with representation?)
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To: demlosers
Captain Hinman is either a dumbass or a crybaby. But since his USMA education and subsequent Secret Service and State Department employment probably rule out stupidity, it is clear that he must be a whining crybaby. And I'll venture that he is also a liar...

I never met a separating officer who failed to understand why the Expiration Date on his Military ID contained the word "Indefinite" instead of an actual date. And given that an officer's duties include educating his men about almost every aspect of military service, I find it hard to imagine that any US Army captain would not fully understand the service obligations which accompany the full range of enlistments, warrants and commissions. I don't buy his claim that he didn't understand what he was getting into.

I don't blame Captain Hinman for being disappointed that he was called back after all these years, or for being anxious to go home to his family. But he got a damned fine college education at taxpayer expense, and was then blessed with the special trust and confidence to lead other young Americans who volunteered for duty. And nobody forced him into it, either -- he asked for that privilege. If Mr. Hinman can no longer conduct himself as an officer, perhaps he should be allowed to serve the remainder of his active duty as a private soldier.

Semper Fidelis...

13 posted on 08/08/2003 6:47:50 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: XJarhead
Technically, can't the President call up ANY commissioned officer, regardless of duty status?
14 posted on 08/08/2003 6:48:34 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: mystery-ak
Yes, and now every one of these "draftees" will be assigned a personal media skank to follow them and their families around in order to report the whining and complaining 24/7.
15 posted on 08/08/2003 6:49:16 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: blanknoone
If the Army didn't make the terms of his IRR clear to him, yeah that's a problem. The Navy made them clear to me, hence my somewhat scathing critique. However, this guy has been out roughly four years, so he's within the normal window for being called back up.
16 posted on 08/08/2003 6:49:55 PM PDT by squidly
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To: demlosers
I got released from IRR in 1991, but if they want my now-slightly-larger a$$ back, they're welcome to it.
17 posted on 08/08/2003 6:50:18 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: demlosers
Break my heart. The guy went to West Point, what did he think that was going to mean? The wife should have had a clue, too - it isn't all about the pretty uniforms. It's about creating warriors.
18 posted on 08/08/2003 6:50:34 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: demlosers
Something is missing from this story. As a West Point grad, this guy would have been commissioned in the Regular Army. It's been a long time since I flexed my former Personnel Officer brain muscles, but I believe that in order to leave active duty prior to his initial service obligation, he would have had to resign his commission, and accept a commission in the United States Army Reserve, and then have chosen to serve his remaining service oblitation in the IRR. When he received his REFRAD (release from active duty) papers, he would have known EXACTLY what his remaining service obligation was, and how that obligation was to be completed. The question that is not answered in this article (nor asked) is why did he resign his Regular commission? And rather than offering to pay back his taxpayer funded tuition, why did he accept a commission as a USAR officer, and then go into the IRR instead of the Active Reserve? What a waste of a perfectly good West Point seat!
19 posted on 08/08/2003 6:51:43 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: Always A Marine
And I'll venture that he is also a liar... I never met a separating officer who failed to understand why the Expiration Date on his Military ID contained the word "Indefinite" instead of an actual date. And given that an officer's duties include educating his men about almost every aspect of military service, I find it hard to imagine that any US Army captain would not fully understand the service obligations which accompany the full range of enlistments, warrants and commissions. I don't buy his claim that he didn't understand what he was getting into.

My thoughts exactly.

20 posted on 08/08/2003 6:51:54 PM PDT by squidly
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