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Misguided Libertarians Are Hindering the War on Terrorism
The Atlantic ^ | 8/6/03 | Stuart Taylor Jr.

Posted on 08/06/2003 3:33:20 PM PDT by DPB101

We should be making it easier, not harder, for intelligence agencies to protect us

A civil-libertarian backlash against the USA PATRIOT Act is gathering steam. More than 140 cities and communities in 27 states have passed resolutions opposing it, according to the American Civil Liberties Union. The ACLU itself has intensified its nonstop barrage, filing a lawsuit on July 30 challenging the constitutionality of one of the act's most far-reaching provisions, and airing TV ads that warn of government spies secretly searching homes. Some librarians say they are destroying records to prevent the feds from tracking patrons' book borrowing and Internet browsing.

Even Congress, which overwhelmingly adopted the 156-section counter-terrorism statute six weeks after the September 11 attacks, without most members having read it, is showing signs of buyer's remorse.

On July 22, the House in a 309-118 vote adopted an appropriations rider to bar the government from invoking the PATRIOT Act to search a home or business without immediately notifying the occupants. Conservative Republicans, including the sponsor, Rep. Butch Otter of Idaho, joined by the ACLU, cheered this vote as a mighty blow against "sneak-and-peek" searches. The Justice Department denounced it as a "terrorist tip-off amendment."

Do 309 House members really want to require the FBI to leave a nice note for the next Mohamed Atta, if and when agents have a chance to sneak into his motel room and copy computer files detailing the identities of his co-conspirators?

It's not easy to tell: The platitudinous floor debate left unclear whether the purpose is to bar all delayed-notice searches, despite decades of judicial precedent upholding such searches under some circumstances, or just to roll the clock back to before the PATRIOT Act. Otter demonstrated his own command of the subject by claiming that Section 213 "allows the CIA and the NSA to operate domestically." Wrong.

The Senate has also been doing its part to make it harder for the government to find suspected terrorists.

On July 17, it voted to cut off all funding for the Pentagon's Terrorism Information Awareness program. Formerly named Total Information Awareness (and unrelated to the PATRIOT Act), this nascent research project into possible uses of "data-mining" and other sophisticated computer technology to find terrorists before they strike has been the focus of a storm of ill-informed Big-Brother-is-about-to-be-watching-you hype. But the most immediate impact of a funding cutoff would be to curtail development of software that would link counter-terrorism agencies' databases to facilitate information-sharing and the like.

This at a time when the congressional Intelligence committees are slamming those same agencies for failing to share information that might have enabled them to prevent the 9/11 attacks!

In their 850-page report, released on July 24, the committees complained of intelligence agencies' "reluctance to develop and implement new technical capabilities aggressively." How are the agencies supposed to do that if Congress kills TIA?

Are Congress and the American people at least waking up to the most insidious Bush administration threats to our freedoms? Not really. Congress has virtually ignored the biggest danger: the administration's incarceration of suspected "enemy combatants" without charges, access to lawyers, or meaningful judicial review.

Instead, Congress and many civil libertarians have misdirected their zeal by mischaracterizing the PATRIOT Act's largely reasonable and incremental expansions of the investigative powers that are the government's main hope of catching would-be mass murderers before it's too late.

A recent ACLU fundraising letter, for example, claims that the PATRIOT Act includes "a provision that might allow the actions of peaceful groups that dissent from government policy, such as Greenpeace, to be treated as 'domestic terrorism.' " This is flat-out false. The act's definition of domestic terrorism (Section 802) covers only criminal activities that are, among other things, "dangerous to human life."

Such scare tactics appear to have succeeded, for now, in preventing Congress from granting the administration additional new powers, such as a much-needed proposal to make clear the FBI's authority to search the possessions of the next Zacarias Moussaoui, the suspected "20th hijacker," who was in custody (but unsearched) for weeks before 9/11.

Libertarians are also intent on blocking re-enactment of the many important PATRIOT Act provisions that will sunset in 2005.

This is not to deny that some sections of the law authorize significant invasions of privacy for the sake of difficult-to-gauge benefits in preventing terrorist attacks.

The most problematic is Section 215, the one challenged in the new ACLU lawsuit. It expands FBI agents' powers, in the course of authorized foreign-intelligence investigations, to inspect without notice and copy records about innocent individuals (as well as suspected terrorists) held by colleges, libraries, hospitals, nonprofits, mosques, Web sites, businesses, banks, and other organizations, and to use gag orders to prevent anyone from telling the targets.

Other arguably overbroad provisions are Section 218, which allows investigators to use the search powers provided by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, even when their primary goal is to find evidence of ordinary crimes, and Section 411, which can be read as authorizing deportation of aliens for innocent associations with terrorist groups.

Even these broad new powers may well be justified by the unprecedented threats we now face. Many libertarians draw exactly the wrong lesson from the Intelligence committees' account of the government's failure to prevent the 9/11 attacks.

The report's catalog of human errors, the ACLU asserts, shows that "the government does not need additional new law enforcement powers."

The opposite is true. Intelligence agencies will never be infallible. We should be making it easier, not harder, for their imperfect agents to protect us.

Misguided and outdated rules imposed on the intelligence agencies in the name of civil liberties before 9/11 contributed to their failure to prevent the attacks.

In particular, the so-called legal "wall" between intelligence and law enforcement agencies helped foster the notorious reluctance of the CIA and FBI to share information.

The PATRIOT Act opened the way for better information-sharing by largely dismantling this wall—with the help of a decision last November by the special Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review. The statute also extended to terrorism investigations some powers that prosecutors had long used in drug and organized-crime cases and updated anachronistic electronic surveillance rules to catch up with new communications technologies.

As for the dreaded "sneak-and-peek" provision (Section 213), the claims that it trashes the Fourth Amendment are far-fetched.

Federal courts, including the Supreme Court, have authorized such searches for decades in circumstances in which immediate notification might defeat the purpose of the surveillance, including all wiretaps.

Section 213 codified a legal standard similar to that used by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit, in Manhattan. While the Section 213 standard is more favorable to prosecutors than those used by some other courts, it is hardly a blank check: Notice may be delayed only for as long as "reasonable," and only when necessary to avoid endangering "life or physical safety," intimidation of witnesses, tampering with evidence, flight from prosecution, or "otherwise seriously jeopardizing an investigation or unduly delaying a trial."

The PATRIOT Act has also been blamed for detentions and other possible abuses that are completely unrelated to it.

Consider the front-page New York Times article on July 21 hyping a leaked report to Congress by the Justice Department's inspector general. The article trumpeted (unproven) complaints by Arab and Muslim prisoners of "serious civil-rights and civil-liberties violations involving enforcement of ... the USA PATRIOT Act."

But these complaints—mainly of beatings and verbal abuse by guards—had nothing to do with enforcement of the PATRIOT Act. Its only relevance was that this report would not have been written at all but for Section 1001, which requires periodic reports to Congress of any and all civil-liberties complaints about Justice Department employees.

We need less media misinformation, less libertarian hysteria, and more judicious congressional oversight of the (unfortunately uncooperative) Justice Department.

The PATRIOT Act's critics have pointed to precious little evidence that it is anything like the engine of McCarthyite witch-hunts they depict it to be. And while a few sections do pose some risk of overly intrusive FBI spying, there are worse things than that. One of them is being murdered by terrorists.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aclu; libertarians; patriotact; stuarttaylorjr; wot
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To: John Beresford Tipton
The Patriot Act doesn't rank in the top...oh....fifty or so abuses of power. Maybe the top hundred. Seizure laws, kids forced into government schools, the IRS, OSHA, mandatory government pensions, the EPA...the list goes on. Getting snared by the Patriot Act is the last thing I worry about when thinking of the Federal government.

The left is making the Patriot Act the issue for 2004 to cover up the real problems.

21 posted on 08/06/2003 4:50:04 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: KDD
Thanks...let me read and digest that. About time someone posted specifics.
22 posted on 08/06/2003 4:51:41 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
Here are a few against the PA or TIA:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20030217.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/14/opinion/14SAFI.html
http://www.cato.org/dailys/02-01-03.html
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,57263,00.html
http://www.publicintegrity.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=502&L1=10&L2=10&L3=0&L4=0&L5=0

Here's one against the ACLU:
http://volokh.com/2003_04_13_volokh_archive.html#200162735

23 posted on 08/06/2003 4:51:53 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: DPB101
You need FReepers to tell you what the problems with it are?

Maybe you're not as bright as I thought you were.

24 posted on 08/06/2003 4:53:13 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: DPB101
"The left is making the Patriot Act the issue for 2004"

Good for them!
It's not like you have a lot of even so-called "Conservatives" opposing it.
25 posted on 08/06/2003 4:53:23 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: DPB101
Truman had Soviet citizens at Ft. Dix, NJ marched under armed guard to be shipped back to the Soviet Union. When they tried to sabotage the ship taking them back, they were beaten and drugged.

Operation Keelhaul. Looking for a good link here...

26 posted on 08/06/2003 5:12:57 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: DPB101
We should be making it easier, not harder, for intelligence agencies to protect us

The writer asks that I "make it easier" for the gob'mint to protect my family and me? HA! Horse Hockey! The gob'mint and its Army might be good at breaking things but not much else. I'll protect myself, thank you very much.

If you want a picture of how "well" the gob'mint protects, just study the Airport Avoidance System (TSA) that has been put in place since 911.

Numbskulls, everyone of them.

Loss of freedom and liberty is the goal of the Islamo-fascists who attacked us in the first place. Dubya might be better than the alternative but he, and the rest of those self-centered, power-hungry, greedy and self-righteous career politicians, have done a pitiful job, at just about everything.

Re-elect no one.

27 posted on 08/06/2003 5:21:26 PM PDT by The Shootist
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To: Noachian; DPB101
We fought a two theater war in WW2 without a Patriot Act

During that era, the FBI did whatever was necessary, with no law nor judicial oversight. They rounded up whoever they felt needed to be rounded up, they shot whoever they felt needed to be shot, and no one bothered to get congressional permission to do it because(1) we were at war, and (2) that was covered under the declaration of war.

There was plenty of time after the war to worry about abuses of power committed during the war, once the enemy was defeated.

I'm not recommending that we establish concentration camps in the desert for all Muslim immigrants, which is equivalent to what they did without a Patriot Act, but there is nothing wrong with rounding up Muslims or non-Muslims who have carried rifles for the Taliban, or carried the water for Bin Ladin. And doing it with judicial review (where was the judicial review for the Japanese immigrants in WW2?).

But there is an important point, to me, that needs to be considered. "War" is the state you are in when civil and criminal law are no longer sufficient to manage a conflict. You are at "war" when subpoenas and warrants and cops are insufficient to the emergency at hand. In such a circumstance, the constitution requires a "declaration" of war, upon which time you let loose the dogs, and do what you have to do, and hope for the best.

It was very important to tie the Patriot Act to a declaration of war, in my opinion. Really, with a declaration of war, it should be unnecessary, because "war" means you are going to do whatever it takes. But tied to a declaration of war, it is a valuable piece of legislation because it lays out guidelines for limiting security intrusions on citizens.

Separate from a Declaration of War, there are elements that are excessive and probably will not withstand Supreme Court review.

But there should never be any doubt that during war you, and everyone around you, and your security services alike, will do what it takes. Thats why its called "war", and thats why we require a congressional declaration. Congress is declaring that we are in a state of exceptional emergency and we are not playing around.

28 posted on 08/06/2003 5:48:31 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
With a declaration of War the President may invoke the War Powers Act that gives him extra-constitutional powers in times of war. The powers can only be in effect untill cessation of the war and then the powers are revoked.

The Patriot Act, however, is codified into law and parts of it will be with us long after the Taliban are a footnote in history books. This Act is an open ended attack on the Constitution.

"Those who suppress freedom always do so in the name of law and order."
John V. Lindsay

"A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves."
Bertrand de Jouvenel

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion."
Edmund Burke

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
Edmund Burke

"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
Albert Einstein

"The illusion of freedom (in America) will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
Frank Zappa
29 posted on 08/06/2003 6:41:00 PM PDT by KDD
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To: KDD
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
Albert Einstein

I like this. You know, that guy is pretty smart.

30 posted on 08/06/2003 7:15:51 PM PDT by Gumption
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The title of the article is misleading.

Any article that confuses libertarians with "civil libertarians" can go straight to the birdcage.

31 posted on 08/06/2003 7:18:42 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: KDD
You are contending that the US has no right to investigate terrorists. This limp wristed leftist thinking is what caused our problems in the first place.
32 posted on 08/07/2003 8:10:49 AM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: Sir Gawain
We should always apply the "Hillary Standard" to any such discussion. To use the Hillary Standard, take what ever law or governmental authority is being discussed and imagine how President Hillary Clinton might make use of it. If the application of the Hillary Standard delivers negative results, then it is probably not a good law or otherwise some power we might not want the government to have. It doesn't matter than President Bush might not abuse a law or power, it is what some future president would could accomplish.
33 posted on 08/07/2003 8:16:20 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Noachian
The study of history is very instructive.
34 posted on 08/07/2003 11:10:35 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: HISSKGB; MEG33
The village idiot, Al Gore, is out in the town square today stirring up illiterate peasants about the Patriot Act, Ashcroft and Rumsfeld.

We've got a civil rights crisis in America if you haven't noticed. We're being violated! Ashcroft must be stopped! The Bill of Rights is being shredded!

35 posted on 08/07/2003 11:20:37 AM PDT by DPB101
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To: Liberal Classic
Your "Hillary Standard" is BS. She did what she wanted and so did her husband laws be damned. There are enough laws on the books for the Feds to destroy anyone it wants. The way to prevent that from happening is to not elect Rats.

Liberals hate the Patriot Act because it tracks the money. Their money. They gutted the CIA to stop Soviet cash from being tracked, today they want the Patriot Act repealed to stop Islamofascist and international criminal money from being tracked. Look at the pardon of Marc Rich if you don't believe the DNC is taking money from foreign criminals.

36 posted on 08/07/2003 11:25:05 AM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
It took me 5 seconds to change channels on Gore.He annoys me! My computer cable has been out for a day so I'm trying to catch up.
37 posted on 08/07/2003 11:32:14 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
He sounds brain damaged, doesn't he? How can anyone cheer that?
38 posted on 08/07/2003 12:22:25 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Liberal Classic
What garbage. Bill, Hillary and the Democrats (for 40 years) created the atmosphere that allowed 9/11 to happen. The PA just takes our security agencies back to the days when the FBI and CIA were allowed to talk to each other. When we were allowed to use intel from foreign governments. And when agents were allowed to pose as members of organizations in order to infiltrate.

All of those basic elements of preventive policing had been banned by the Democrats during the years of their control.

The corrupt Left-wing will do whatever it needs to do if it gets in into power again. That's what you should be working against. The PA only permits the good guys to operate on your behalf.

I have looked but can't find any person or group represented by the ACLU et al, in this action against the PA...that is not Muslim!!

39 posted on 08/07/2003 12:39:22 PM PDT by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: DPB101
I've heard good news from Iraq. Much progress has been made. The people are very grateful. It pays not to get your news from TV.
40 posted on 08/07/2003 12:51:04 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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