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Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand (Charles Smith)
NewsMax.com ^ | August 6, 2003 | Charles Smith

Posted on 08/06/2003 12:35:40 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina

Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand Charles R. Smith Wednesday August 6, 2003

NewsMax.com has obtained exclusive photos of a buried Iraqi jet fighter being recovered by U.S. Air Force troops. The Iraqi jet, an advanced Russian MiG-25 Foxbat, was found buried in the sands after an informant tipped off U.S. troops. Click here to see the MiG buried in the Iraqi desert.

The MiG was dug out of a massive sand dune near the Al Taqqadum airfield by U.S. Air Force recovery teams. The MiG was reportedly one of over two-dozen Iraqi jets buried in the sands, like hidden treasure, waiting to be recovered at a later date.

Contrary to what some in the major media have reported, not all the jets found were from the Gulf War era.

The Russian made MiG-25 Foxbat recovered by U.S. Army troops in the pictures, is an advanced reconnaissance version never before seen in the west and is equipped with sophisticated electronics warfare devices.

U.S. Air Force recovery teams had to use large earth moving equipment to uncover the MiG which is over 70 feet long and weights nearly 25 tons.

Click here to see troops digging the MiG out of its hole.

Click here to see troops towing the jet away.

All photos courtesy of MSGT T. Collins, USAF

The Foxbat is known to be one of Iraq's top jet fighters. The advanced electronic reconnaissance version found by the U.S. Air Force is currently in service with the Russian air force. The MiG is capable of flying at speeds of over 2,000 miles an hour or three times the speed of sound, and at altitudes of over 75,000 feet.

The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian and French made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U.N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad.

The buried aircraft at Al Taqqadum were covered in camouflage netting, sealed and in many cases had their wings removed, before being buried over ten feet underneath the Iraqi desert.

X MARKS THE SPOT

The discovery of the buried Iraqi jet fighters illustrates the problem faced by U.S. inspection teams searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. Iraq is larger in size than California and the massive deserts south and west of Baghdad were used by Saddam Hussein to hide weapons during the first Gulf war.

U.S. intelligence sources have already uncovered several mass grave burial sites in the open deserts with an estimated 10,000 dead hidden there. In addition, Iraq previously hid SCUD missiles, chemical weapons and biological warheads by burying them under the desert sands. U.N. inspection teams found the weapons in the early 1990s after detailed information of the exact locations was obtained.

Top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay is known to favor human intelligence as the primary means to find Iraq's hidden treasure trove of weapons and secrets.

While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria, the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands.

Some critics of the Bush administration have claimed that the inability of U.S. forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the President misled the nation into the war with Iraq. However, in recent days the critics have fallen silent as word quietly leaked from Iraq that major discoveries have already been made and are now being documented completely. Bush administration officials are keeping any such discoveries secret for the moment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allyourmigs; arebelongtous; britanniaisatroll; foxbat; iraq; iraqiairforce; mig; migs; pictures; rebuildingiraq; trollalert; trollbane; trollinthread; wmd
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To: CCCV; All
Belenko wrote a book about it. It WAS a tale of high adventure...just imagine, stealing the fastest fighter in the world, from a totalitarian Soviet state, and running flat-out to get to a safe harbor.

He pushed the plane as far as it would go on the gas he had, and used his last bit to climb for altitude. When he flamed out, he glided to land in Japan. Since the MiG-25 glides like a brick, this took HUGE, BRASS ones. Then, he followed up with a dead-stick landing at the Air Force Base (whose name escapes me), in bad weather.

The epilogue of the story was, the Russians demanded the return of their airplane. We complied, after stripping it down to individual BOLTS and packaging each one, labeling them, and sending them back. It took over a year...

141 posted on 08/06/2003 1:52:15 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: HighRoadToChina
Astounding! I had NO idea that they had such advanced sand flying capabilities.
142 posted on 08/06/2003 1:52:18 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: ASA Vet
"I've got lots of new tubes in boxes awaiting the big offer from some collector, (or is that cathode?)"

LOL.

It's the anode, I think.
143 posted on 08/06/2003 1:53:15 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: bedolido
"I forgot about the XB-70 Valkyrie. That was a beautiful plane. Wonder why they never went thru with it?"

Simple...it cost too much to manufacture. It WAS a beauty, though.

144 posted on 08/06/2003 1:53:17 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: HighRoadToChina
"The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian and French made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U.N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad."

Which just MAY confirm suspicions as to why Russia and France were so against us taking down the Iraqi gubmint.

145 posted on 08/06/2003 1:54:26 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Long Cut
and running flat-out to get to a safe harbor
Yep, Bob told us that no one knew he was on his way - he just showed up! Quite a suprise.
146 posted on 08/06/2003 1:55:15 PM PDT by CCCV
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To: Long Cut
He had to have wanted out BAD!
147 posted on 08/06/2003 1:55:53 PM PDT by CCCV
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To: nightdriver
Which just MAY confirm suspicions as to why Russia and France were so against us taking down the Iraqi gubmint

Excellent point!

148 posted on 08/06/2003 1:55:53 PM PDT by bedolido (None of us is as dumb as all of us!)
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To: Gunslingr3
No offense taken.

I responded to the paragraph as stated. I'll admit my cluelessness to all things military air support. My 8 yr old knows more about the various air power and their capabilities than his mom.


We'll have to believe that Newsmax knows as much as the military in wartime will tell them.

thanks.
149 posted on 08/06/2003 1:57:05 PM PDT by swheats
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To: dljordan
Kind of gives new meaning to "flying carpets"?!? LOL
150 posted on 08/06/2003 1:58:18 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: CCCV; All
The legend has it that, after dead-sticking it in and rolling to a stop in the grass, he got out of the bird and said, "I am Lt. Viktor Belenko, of the Soviet Air Force. I wish to defect, and this (pats side of MiG) is for you!"

I don't know weather that's true or not, but I'd like to share a drink or two with him and find out. Guys like that are priceless.

In a way, he hastened the downfall of the Soviet Union. Up to then, we'd thought that they were even with us in technology...he showed us they were in fact far behind, and were NOT the boogeymen we'd thought they were, militarily.

151 posted on 08/06/2003 2:00:42 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: Long Cut
I wish to defect, and this (pats side of MiG) is for you!"
Great BIG BRASS ones...
Sounds like he should have been one of us anyway.
152 posted on 08/06/2003 2:02:48 PM PDT by CCCV
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To: Long Cut
Simple...it cost too much to manufacture.

Not only was it very expensive to produce due to the honeycomb stainless steel skin, the "six-pack" created a 'hugh' radar signature and though fast, was thought to be easliy targeted (and hit) by Soviet SAM's. Interesting to note that the XB-70 generated most of it's lift at speed by "surfing" on it's compression wave. This is why it had the drooping wing tips.
153 posted on 08/06/2003 2:04:37 PM PDT by midwestmidnight
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To: CCCV
"Yep, Bob told us that no one knew he was on his way - he just showed up! Quite a suprise."

It was, for a lot of people. He was on a routine training flight, plan in mind, and simply broke off from his wingman. He dove down low and punched burners, and did a Gone In Sixty Seconds-style run southeast. He avoided all attempts they made to track him and shoot him down, too.

I get an adrenaline rush just thinking about it.

154 posted on 08/06/2003 2:06:31 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: CCCV; All
"Sounds like he should have been one of us anyway."

AMERICA! It's not an ethnicity, it's a SPIRIT, and he surely was an American in that!

155 posted on 08/06/2003 2:08:52 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: bedolido
nice pic... boring movie until the last 30 minutes (FireFox)

I agree. The book was really good though, and Craig Thomas, the author, actually wrote a sequel, Firefox Down, which was good too. It begins EXACTLY at the moment the first one ended. Gant had just killed the second Firefox, when he notices that his fuel is almost gone. Turns out his tanks were punctured by cannon fire, and he makes an emergency landing on a frozen lake in Finland. Good guys are trying to rescue the now-captured Gant and salvage the plane (which sank) before the Finns turn it over to the Russians. Not a bad read, IIRC.

156 posted on 08/06/2003 2:10:54 PM PDT by gbunch (God bless our President and our troops.)
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To: Long Cut
"Belenko wrote a book about it. It WAS a tale of high adventure...just imagine, stealing
the fastest fighter in the world, from a totalitarian Soviet state,
and running flat-out to get to a safe harbor."

The book was called "Mig Pilot", written in collaboration
with an American writer.

157 posted on 08/06/2003 2:12:01 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Pyro7480
I don't think the MiG-25 can go Mach 3.

Maybe not quite, but pretty close. Mach 2.83 is the official top speed, based on airframe considerations, but it can and has exceeded Mach 3. If you don't mind an engine change out after every flight that is. That's what Victor Belenko said anyway. He flew a Mig-25(original fighter varient) to Japan in September of 1976.

158 posted on 08/06/2003 2:15:51 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: GovernmentShrinker
You wrote, "I want to know how, with all the high-falutin' satellite surveillance we have, we didn't spot the huge operation of burying these 20+ jets!"

Damned good question! Let me know if you get an answer.
159 posted on 08/06/2003 2:17:20 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: PLMerite
IIRC, it (MiG-25R) launched in Syria and recovered in Egypt (or vice versa). It made a straight-line Mach 2.8 dash across Israel on a probable ELINT mission. The engines needed to be replaced before it could fly again. I think it was a case of meltski downski.

Yes, that was the other problem, I think it could do bursts of Mach 3 and the engines would be okay, but sustained at 2.8+ and engines don't work so good after that.

160 posted on 08/06/2003 2:20:36 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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