A Passage to India Services to Follow Manufacturing Jobs Exodus

Comprehensive Marketing Service ^ | July 22, 2003 | Bob Djurdjevic

[oceanview]

and now there is total hatred for corporations amongst the people who work there (still) and see this happening. this trend is destroying the entire US corporate structure as it relates to the relationship with the employee. trust me, most voters could care less if corporate taxes rise, even if they work at one of them. they see these practices, all taking place while corporate management lines their pockets, so they say "who cares". why argue for lower corporate taxes, show me any proof this would lead to a reduction in offshoring.

[DoughtyOne]

The atmosphere isn't healthy for the corporations or the employees.

[andy58-in-nh]

Gore said that free trade would help increase the U.S. manufacturing base.

Of course it will. Indians and Malaysians and Chinese will manufacture more goods for American companies to sell to the American workers they are continuing to lay off.

[LayoutGuru2]

US gives India assurance on outsourcing

[UnBlinkingEye]

Gore said that free trade would help increase the U.S. manufacturing base.

And Bush continues H1-B, L1 and policies supporting OPIC encouraging U.S. companies to invest outside the country.

How about some program cuts to go along with those tax cuts?

[Ed_in_NJ]

Ross was right!

[Ed_in_NJ]

Al Outreach still thinks he was in the Carter administration, too.

[stylin19a]

and by the time they are making 35k a year...they can outsource the jobs back to us.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Something our government and big business should take a serious look at.

Why should they? The way things are going, all you have to do is draw breath to be eligible to vote. Deep down, the pols don't give a damn where the money comes from. Tax revenue is tax revenue. Left is Right and Right is Left. They're all the same.

If they can stay in office while pandering to a new and loyal voting demographic it is a win/win for them. To hell with the rest of us. The Game is all about staying in power.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Funny what H1-B labor does to management thinking.

They thought wrong.

Stipulations of an H1-B and L1 visa is that the incoming laborer does not displace an American worker. Or am I wrong? They should be held accountacle for this.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I predict this trend to be short lived.

From your keyboard to The Almighty's monitor. I hope you are right.

For blessed is this nation and her Republic...'twas His hand that molded it. We must ensure its survival.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I cut back on all my spending, enough people do that and what happens to the economy?

1929.

[snippy_about_it]

Well I was thinking the Right are the folks paying the most taxes. If all that is left to the pols is the left, imported and illegal workers their money might dwindle. And as far as big business, who would be buying?

[Havoc]

It's a well planned strategy. With jobs leaving en-masse and immigration out of control, our job base cannot support what we have, much less the crowd spilling in through our borders illegally. Someone should try applying the dumping laws to these practices and put a stop to what's happening before we become a third world country with a memory of having been a superpower.

[wcbtinman]

"What in heavens name are they thinking will result from all this?"

They know exactly what will happen.

Does anyone else here see the parallels to the history of other countries? Once critical mass is reached, those who have been replaced with foreign workers will finally realize that they have nothing left to lose. The govt and business are working together to destroy our standard of living, and wiping out the lifelong efforts of the American worker for the sake of the next quarterly report. I'm not saying it is a conspiracy, but it doesn't matter.

Our corruption of govt is opening the door for some Lenin wanna-be to get the ear of all of these now unemployed/destitute workers.

That's when it hits the fan. I think that the govt realizes this somewhat. Why do you think they are trying so hard to disarm us?

[banjo joe]

who is left to buy the products

The emerging world market, so they think.

They don't give two craps about America or Americans.

[snippy_about_it]

Sadly true. I'm just wishing that fact would bring them to ruin.

[snippy_about_it]

Does anyone else here see the parallels to the history of other countries?

I do. Just one of the reasons it is so important to study history.

[SauronOfMordor]

On another thread, the H1B figures were disclosed. H1B visas are good for three years and can be renewed. The total visa approvals for the last three years (and thus the number of visa holders here) is 786,383 visas. This is much more than the total IT unemployment/underemployment figures. Per US dept of labor statistics, the TOTAL number of IT professionals in the US is 1.8 million. Granted that not all H1B's are in IT, but I think most are. THERE is your cause for IT unemployment right there

[Dialup Llama]

>So after 2 years of a 100 percent H1-B dev staff, what do you think management did? They looked at every other employee (customer support, sales engineering, etc) and did a mass layoff based solely on compensation level. That is, if you make more than $X, you're fired.

I take that this firing by compensation level did not include executive level employees.