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Critics of Homosexual Bishop's Confirmation Lament 'Sad Day for Christians'
CNSNews.com ^ | 8/06/03 | Steve Brown

Posted on 08/06/2003 2:25:59 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - Some Christian activists expressed disappointment Tuesday over the election of the Episcopalian Church's first openly homosexual bishop - a vote that occurred after church officials meeting in Minneapolis, Minn., concluded allegations of past sexual misconduct on the part of Rev. Gene Robinson were baseless.

"It's a sad day for Christians everywhere," Peter LaBarbera, senior policy analyst with Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute, told CNSNews.com.

The vote by the House of Bishops had been postponed Monday following the 11th-hour allegations that Robinson had engaged in inappropriate touching with another man at a church event. An investigation was quickly launched into that charge, as well as one revolving around whether a website belonging to an organization Robinson founded for homosexual Episcopalian youth also contained a link to Internet pornography.

Robinson was cleared of any wrongdoing, and the final vote by the House of Bishops was 62 to 45 for approval.

"I'm thrilled we're going forward, and I'm very hopeful," Rev. Michael Hopkins, president of Integrity, an Episcopalian group of homosexuals - told CNSnews.com after learning the results of the investigation.

Hopkins said the vote confirming Robinson as bishop sends a "great message" from the church that its doors are "open wide."

However, not all Episcopalians applauded the decision or agreed with Hopkins on the message being sent. Rev. David Anderson, president of the American Anglican Council (AAC), had previously told reporters that Robinson's confirmation would be a "fatal bullet" to the Anglican Communion, the church of Great Britain that includes the Episcopalian Church in America and has 77 million members worldwide.

"We are on the deck of the Titanic, saying to the captain, the presiding bishop, that there's an iceberg dead ahead. For God's sake, steer us away from it. Don't hit it," Anderson said.

According to a petition on the AAC's website, "to confirm a non-celibate homosexual as a bishop of this Communion or to approve the creation of liturgies for the blessing of relationships outside of marriage would shatter the church," a reference to the decision of some Episcopalian officials to bless civil unions.

According to the AAC petition, the decision to confirm Robinson would:

-- Separate the church from historic Christian faith and teaching;

-- Alienate it from the fellowship and accountability of the worldwide Anglican family; and

-- Confuse the witness of the church to the love and joy of Christian marriage.

According to press reports, the AAC is planning a meeting in October to decide whether to break away from the Episcopalian Church or take some other action. Like-minded Anglicans overseas were also reported as saying they would consider severing ties with the American Episcopalian branch.

The 1998 Lambeth Conference, a once-a-decade gathering of Anglican leaders, approved a resolution calling homosexuality "incompatible with Scripture."

Yet Hopkins and other supporters expressed some doubt about the convictions of those threatening a church split.

"I hope that it's more bluster than reality. We'll see what they decide to do," Hopkins said. "I think in the end, there's more that holds us together than drives us apart."

Hopkins conceded that the church had lost some members when it decided to ordain women as priests, but he noted that then, as now, there were predictions of "a real worldwide split" in the church, which never came to pass.

Susan Russell, director of communications for Integrity, recently told reporters that Robinson's elevation to the position of bishop would increase church membership, which according to press reports has fallen 5.3 percent in the last decade.

"The same threats of schism were all around, and in my experience as an ordained woman in this church, the ordination of women has only strengthened our ministry and enhanced our ability to proclaim the good news of God in Jesus Christ to those yearning to hear it," Russell told reporters. "I think the Episcopal Church is poised on what we call a kairos moment, offering to the world a vision of a progressive, inclusive gospel, which is another step forward."

Critics like LaBarbera disagree. The "saddest thing" about Robinson's ordination, he said, is that it confuses children.

"It tells them that wrong is right, that it doesn't matter if a man has a (sexual) relationship with a woman or a man. It's just tragic that they are choosing to elevate something that is a sin, and all the young people are going to see this. The liberals are teaching the kids that sin is okay, and it's very sad," LaBarbera said.

He stressed that this issue is far from over within the Episcopalian Church and the larger society.

"The funny thing is that these people think they can change immutable standards by a vote. You don't change moral law by some liberal political action. God will not be mocked," LaBarbera said.

See Earlier Story:
Child Porn Link Delays Vote on Homosexual Bishop
(Aug. 5, 2003)

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KEYWORDS: 62to45vote; 62votes; confirmed; episcopal; fallout; homosexualbishop; peterlabarbera
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Didn't Lot's wife turn into a pillar or salt or something similar? I don't have a Bible handy here.

How hard would it be to make such a pillar and sculpt it into the form of a woman looking over her shoulder?
61 posted on 08/06/2003 6:42:26 AM PDT by Ronin (Qui tacet consentit!)
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To: kattracks
The vote by the House of Bishops had been postponed Monday following the 11th-hour allegations that Robinson had engaged in inappropriate touching with another man at a church event. An investigation was quickly launched into that charge, as well as one revolving around whether a website belonging to an organization Robinson founded for homosexual Episcopalian youth also contained a link to Internet pornography.

They dither about whether "Robinson had engaged in inappropriate touching with another man" when they already KNOW Robinson and his partner are engaging in oral and anal sodomy, fisting, rimming, etc.?

They dither about a link to porn when Robinson is running a chickenhawk website for recruiting Episcopalian youth into the homosexual lifestyle?

Do these people have any idea what a JOKE they are? How could anyone take them seriously about anything?

62 posted on 08/06/2003 6:56:49 AM PDT by jimt
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
But, but,they're progressive, dontcha know? God will place Ichabod on the doors of their churches and turn his back on them. Then they can have their little unions and bless whoever they want but without God's blessing. Not a good place to be.
63 posted on 08/06/2003 7:23:28 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
I saw that, too, and was sick over the way they defend this man and defecate on scripture.
64 posted on 08/06/2003 7:25:15 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: kattracks
Oh, did you hear on Fox and Friends this morning when Brian laughingly said homosexuality was the HOT thing now? E.D. at least put her head but the older guy (what's his name - don't like him anyway) was laughing and encouraging Brian to continue. I was not pleased with Brian at all.
65 posted on 08/06/2003 7:29:22 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: bets
Ours was a Baptist church until about 20 years ago when an Elim pastor took over. We're still in the Baptist convention and have actually done some good there as far as worship goes. But we're essentially a non-denominational, spirit filled congregation. It's a great place to be on Sunday morning. We have no hierarchy to bow down to who makes decisions for us. We make our own with the counsel of God and four good praying pastors. I would never go back to a denominational church again, having been a Methodist for much of my life and an Episcopalian as a child. I'm sad for that church.
66 posted on 08/06/2003 7:29:51 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: George W. Bush
If they do, it's a dust collector.
68 posted on 08/06/2003 7:31:07 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Katie_Colic
You're absolutely right. And fornicators of either sex cannot get into the Kingdom of God. Guess they didn't read that one.
69 posted on 08/06/2003 7:34:14 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: DreamWeaver
That's right, DreamWeaver. There is a storm on the horizon and only those Christians who hunker down close to God will survive and be a beacon of light in that darkness.
70 posted on 08/06/2003 7:36:23 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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Proverbs 16:25 "There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."
71 posted on 08/06/2003 7:46:45 AM PDT by far sider
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To: Ronin
How hard would it be to make such a pillar and sculpt it into the form of a woman looking over her shoulder?

Great Idea!! Get them made of plastic realistically painted to look like salt and you can leave them on the church's front yard (somewhat like those pink plastic flamingos). Show her dressed in Sunday clothes and carrying a bible but with fear on her face. Running from the church but looking back.

I wish I knew more about injection molding. This seems to be a growth industry coming up

72 posted on 08/06/2003 7:53:03 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: kattracks
Apostacy: the falling away from the true faith.

"You shall know them by their fruits"(words/actions)
73 posted on 08/06/2003 7:59:09 AM PDT by Gal.5:1
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To: Miss Marple
Miss Marple, as always you have hit the nail on the old proverbial head! Thanks for your clarity on the subject. I was a Methodist for 30 years and loved my church, but I never really heard about salvation there. I had to go to a Baptist Church to learn that.
74 posted on 08/06/2003 7:59:13 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Miss Marple
A very good point. The Lutheran Church properties are owned by the local congregations. I think the queers are going after the ELCA because they see a vulnerability in the liberal and oh-so sophisticated elite.

I predict that the more conservative, main-stream Lutherans from the old American Lutheran Church will split away if the queer agenda is recognized, leaving the LCA folks stuck with the queers.

As an afterthought, I for one will not use the term "gay" in reference to the queers. I do not consider them or their lifestyle as "gay".

75 posted on 08/06/2003 8:00:53 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: seamole
"I was thinking of taking vengeance on an "Episcopal Church Welcomes You" sign last night. "

Are you a member of an Episcopal church? If not, what makes you think you should have a voice in that church's decision about anything?
76 posted on 08/06/2003 8:31:36 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: seamole
"I don't particularly like giving out personal information online, especially when asked, but I think all Christians have the right and responsibility to disassociate themselves from the Episcopal Church in a public manner, and to warn others of the perils of that group's false teachings.
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OK, that's fine, but churches of all kinds make all sorts of decisions. Some you like; some you don't. Isn't it up to the individual denomination to make such decisions, for better or worse? Is it for non-members of such a denomination to decide? I don't think so.

So, go to your church and abide by its rules, but leave other churches to make their own.
79 posted on 08/06/2003 9:15:48 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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