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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You may not be a Christian, but you have it exactly right.

This is an obvious schism in the Episcopal Church, and the gay issue is only one part of it. Underlying it all is the issue you have outlines. And it also is occurring in many other mainline denominations (Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, United Church of Christ) and to my mind accounts for their declining membership.

6 posted on 08/05/2003 4:43:45 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Thanks for your comment. The very same phenomenon has played out in my religion, Judaism, in which liberals assert that rules must change with the changing times.

Encouragingly, the pendulum seems to be swinging back towards tradition among Reform Jews.
9 posted on 08/05/2003 4:48:00 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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And even many of the folks who do attend aren't exactly what I'd call devout. All of the Catholics I know who attend mass regularly are cafeteria Catholics.
11 posted on 08/05/2003 4:49:08 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Miss Marple
The worldview of Bishop Shaw is in the great liberal tradition of "it depends on what the meaning of is, is" and of Supreme Court justices who ignore the clear language of the Constitution to bend it to their political whim.
19 posted on 08/05/2003 4:56:33 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Miss Marple
"And it also is occurring in many other mainline denominations (Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, United Church of Christ) and to my mind accounts for their declining membership."

.....it's definately going on in the Presbyterian Church USA....their liberal agenda and obsession with social issues has killed the church....the average Presbyterian now is 57 years old and climbing....

26 posted on 08/05/2003 5:05:12 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Miss Marple
HUMANISM REPLACING GOD
114 posted on 08/05/2003 7:51:45 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (i)
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