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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Shaw's response: "We don't only respond to Scripture. We respond to reason, and to Jesus's message of love. This is a new time."

Seems as though "Mr." Shaw (He does not deserve to be called a Bishop)didn't get the entire message. "Go and sin no more," was a really big part of it.

But of course when "supposedly" learned men convulute scripture to conform to their own desires, what would we expect.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

12 posted on 08/05/2003 4:49:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: N. Theknow
Shaw's response: "We don't only respond to Scripture. We respond to reason, and to Jesus's message of love. This is a new time."

If you take out the Jesus part, this quote could be coming from Sandra Day O'Connor. Just replace "scripture" with "constitution." Typical leftist crapola.

20 posted on 08/05/2003 4:57:10 AM PDT by LarryM
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To: N. Theknow
Leviticus 20:

9 " 'If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head.

10 " 'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife-with the wife of his neighbor-both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

If reason shouldn't trump Scripture, then why isn't death row filled with adulterers and children as well as homosexuals, as the Bible clearly commands?
29 posted on 08/05/2003 5:14:55 AM PDT by reasonseeker
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To: N. Theknow
The Episcopalians gave us Bishop John Spong, he of the 'Christ's salvation isn't the only way to get into Heaven . . .'

It's so weird to see the big protestant and catholic religions looking for a 'second way' into Heaven. The whole point to Christ's salvation is that it takes into account that we are afflicted with sin, and cannot free ourselves. We are justified by grace alone.

I can't think of a religion, or any institution, asking so little of a person and that person getting so much.

For reasons I can't really understand, human beings more readily believe in self control. They want that control of their lives and the world around them so badly, and so few of us, if any of us, ever achieve it.

In the end, you die, which is the final seal on the failure of that quest for self control.

In Christianity, you just say, "Thanks." and your life changes forever. You have essentially the same struggles, but you know in the end where you are going to end up.

Why in the world would we want some sort of second way?
120 posted on 08/05/2003 8:30:16 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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