Posted on 08/04/2003 5:23:00 PM PDT by Salvation
Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
But that is no reason for us to give up!
Fine. Write your own 'bot to spam the CNN poll. That's what they're doing. See if it makes any difference.
This whole 'poll' thing has long since degenerated into the digital equivalent of two dogs vying to be the last to mark a fire hydrant.
-Jay
It is, but the real question really revolves around the legal recognition of marriage. Mainly for tax purposes, but also for employee benefit entitlements, inheritance and so forth. Most of those benefits and entitlements were originally put in place to provide for children, and to protect non working mothers, both while raising their children and later in widowhood. With a homosexual union there can be no question of natural children, and there need be no non-working partner who is rasing those non-existant children.
It's just my impression and opinion, but I get the general impressiion that lesbians want the formal recognition for their relationships, while gays want the medical and other spousal benefits.
Colorado recognizes common law marriage. There is no common law divorce though. If you want a divorce from a common law marriage, you must go through the usual legal process. Couples living together in Colorado, depending on their exact circumstances, may be legally married even though they don't know it. Makes for interesting court cases sometimes.
which doesn't explain whey they've only been doing it for a few generations. Before that, it was pretty much a church or other religious institution, or you could get married by a local official. The records from the church or local official were sufficient for the purposes you indicate.
One reason the government got involved was to stop the spread of disease. That's why most states at one time or another required a blood test. When we got married, we got a certificate from the Church as well as the state certificate, and there was a blood test required. The Church also required, although it could be waived, a waiting period and some amount of instruction, especially if one of the partners was not of that church. They didn't require that that spouse join that church or profess any of its beliefs, however.
Births too were once recorded by the churches, or sometimes just in the family bible. The government only got involved in counting the new arrivals every 10 years, although they did and do, maintain records of names and ages.
which doesn't explain whey they've only been doing it for a few generations.
Not to belabor the point, but our society became much more highly mobile in the last few generations. Up until that time, a body was likely to be buried only a few miles from their birth place. During such a time, church records (of churches with ~100% community attendance) sufficed.
Times have changed.
-Jay
'Marriage' is the union of opposites. . .'yin'. . .'yang'. . .; two 'yangs' do not a marriage make; nor two 'yins'. . .so to speak and just for starters. . .
Does seem we are outnumbered. . .
Why should you care what other people do as long as it not hurting you in some tangable manner?
Should marriage be legally defined as only a union between a man and a woman?
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Yes
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267499 votes
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No
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69%
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599256 votes
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Total: 866755 votes
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