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PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE [BARF ALERT - ANTI-GOP PROPAGANDA]
NewsWithViews.com ^ | May 9, 2003 | By David Brownlow

Posted on 08/02/2003 10:39:40 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE

NewsWithViews.com
By David Brownlow
May 9, 2003
Source

A politician would have a hard time finding a more loyal special interest group than with those of us who oppose the legalized child killing industry. For the last thirty years of the war on the unborn, we have worked tirelessly to elect pro-life, mostly Republican, politicians.

Our loyalty was so strong that even though the Republicans failed to deliver us a single pro-life victory, we continued to send them back to Washington year after year. For thirty years, we trusted the Republicans when they told us to be patient, because they had a plan and a party platform that said abortion was wrong.

We now know that everything they told us was a complete pack of lies.

We know that because the Senate has finally passed the long awaited "Partial Birth Abortion Ban," Senate Bill S.3. Rather than being a useful tool in the fight to stop a barbaric and indefensible method of child killing, S.3 reads more like an instruction manual for abortionists.

In what can only be described as the mildest abortion restrictions that one could possibly put into words, Sec.1531 instructs the "doctor" to make sure and kill the child before "in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother". Or "in the case of breech presentation", make sure the child is killed before "any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother". (Actual text of SB S.3 in quotes)

With toothless restrictions like that, it is highly unlikely that even a single life will be saved. The only thing this will do is to make sure all the children are killed before the "entire fetal head" or the "fetal trunk past the navel" is showing. We waited thirty years for this?

Excuse me for shouting, but IF THE HEAD IS ALMOST OUT OF THE MOTHER, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO KILL THE KID? Do we hate children so much that we cannot wait 10 more seconds for the child to be born? 42,000,000 children killed since 1973 and this is the best they could come up with. What kind of people have we been putting into office?

If Senate Bill S.3 was just plain bad legislation, we could almost forgive the politicians for their incompetence. But believe it or not, this bill gets even worse. It gets a lot worse.

Not content to just write a watered down, sorry excuse for an abortion ban, the Senate goes on in Sec. 4, to let us all know "The Sense on the Senate Concerning Roe. v. Wade". I am not sure what kind of sense these people have, but we have definitely found out what we get for thirty years of loyalty. The 48 Republican Senators who voted to approve S.3, pledged that,

You need to read that again. I've read it about 20 times and it still hurts to look at it.

Please understand that it was not just a few renegade Senators who voted for this. It was 48 Republican Senators, including every one of them who ever told us they were pro-life, who put their name on a bill that says; Roe v. Wade was "appropriate." This is a clear, unambiguous reaffirmation of the illegal Supreme Court decision that started this whole mess back in 1973. If I had not read it for myself I would not believe it.

The extent of their betrayal is absolutely breath taking!

So now we know why the Republicans have gone thirty years without a single pro- life victory. These guys are not even pro-life! We have been fooling ourselves that somehow, despite all the evidence to the contrary, the years of partisan efforts were getting us closer to ending legalized abortion in America. But if the "sense" of the Senate is any indication, we have not even started the fight. We can now only hope that the House has enough sense to put S.3 out of it's misery.

A decades old policy of voting for the lesser of two evils has left us with a Republican Party that is a mere hollowed-out shell of its former self, broken beyond any hope of repair. The only way we are ever going to win this fight is by putting men and women of integrity into office who will not bow to the political pressures.

Clearly, the team we have in there now is not up to the task.


Partial- birth abortion ban hits snag over Roe v. Wade affirmation
"President Bush supports the ban, but there has been no indication if he would sign it into law if it included the Roe resolution."


S 3 ES

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 3


AN ACT

To prohibit the procedure commonly known as partial-birth abortion.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

SEC. 3. PROHIBITION ON PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS.

`CHAPTER 74--PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS

`Sec. 1531. Partial-birth abortions prohibited

--1531'.

SEC. 4. SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING ROE V. WADE.

Passed the Senate March 13, 2003.

Attest:

Secretary.

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 3

AN ACT

To prohibit the procedure commonly known as partial-birth abortion.

END


Bush Signs Largest Family Planning Bill In U.S. History

Covenant News
Staff
January 11, 2002

On Thursday, January 10, 2002, the White House reported President Bush signed the ominous $15.4 billion foreign appropriations bill, H.R. 2506, for fiscal-year 2002. The bill authorizes $446.5 million U.S. tax dollars to be given to other countries for abortion- family planning activities throughout the world. The abortion-family planning funds approved by Bush represents an increase of $21.5 million over last year for international family planning.
[end of excerpt]
SOURCE

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Although President Bush has endorsed a complete ban on human cloning sponsored by senators Sam Brownback, R.-Kan., and Mary Landrieu, D.- La., White House lobbyists contacted Republican senators June 18 to ask them to vote that morning for cloture (a closing of debate to bring a legislative question to a vote) on the Senate's terrorism insurance bill (S 2600), thus preventing an up-or-down vote on a human cloning amendment that Brownback wanted to attach to the bill. His amendment would have banned the patenting of human embryos – effectively destroying any economic incentive for the experimental cloning of human beings."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: abortion; bush; gop; pbaban2003; republican
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To: Mo1
I do think there are many that will keep an eye on them and wether PBA are being performed or not.

How? By installing cameras in abortion mills?

Would any of us really want to establish the precedent, even over abortion, of having videotaped governmental review of our medical procedures?

How is this legislation enforceable?


621 posted on 08/06/2003 12:47:42 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Dump Davis)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Try this one:


622 posted on 08/06/2003 12:47:57 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence... in every reply to me)
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To: Sabertooth
You have totally missed my point .. I realize that and have stated that there are some that are hell bent on performing PBA

And when caught .. they will go to jail

Well, it's late here and plus there's another dang thunder storm so I'm outta here

Nite

623 posted on 08/06/2003 12:48:08 AM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: nunya bidness
Yes, I'm impressed. I'm impressed they managed to get this bill through at all (assuming they did). Still several big humps to get over.

624 posted on 08/06/2003 12:51:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Don't you think President Bush is working toward that goal?

I'm not so sure. He's doged it at every function.

It may be academic but the claim of success will be tantamount to an admission.

Say nothing and the belief is considerable. Say something and the belief is resolute. In the end it's just shades of grey.

It's preferable to know what leaders are thinking, feeling, and planning. It's just cleaner that way.

625 posted on 08/06/2003 12:52:40 AM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: fatima
Thanks so very much..

It is very hard indeed..

Even after all this time..

Prayers for your daughter..always..

Ms.B
626 posted on 08/06/2003 12:53:13 AM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds".Re-elect G.W.Bush)
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To: Mo1
Mo1,Thry charge a lot of money to have an abortion.They look at each girl as a dollar sign.
627 posted on 08/06/2003 1:01:37 AM PDT by fatima (Jim,Karen,We are so proud of you.Thank you for all you do for our country.)
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To: nunya bidness
Which still begs the question, how does your libertarian party propose changing anything with abortion without a single elected national or state official in the position to pass legislation?

Or is it your plan to simply sit on the sidelines and complain loudy about people who are actually attempting to do something?

628 posted on 08/06/2003 1:10:58 AM PDT by CWOJackson (The English call them Monty Python, we call them the LP...)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
MS.BEHAVIN,I hold your hand,thank you.
629 posted on 08/06/2003 1:11:08 AM PDT by fatima (Jim,Karen,We are so proud of you.Thank you for all you do for our country.)
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To: nunya bidness
I'm not so sure. He's doged it at every function.

Dodged it at every function? I'm sorry - I don't know what you mean by that. Please explain.

630 posted on 08/06/2003 1:12:50 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list.)
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To: Sabertooth
This bill prohibits "partial birth abortion" as it is being performed today. If the abortionists ignore the law and continue the slaughter, some will eventually be caught and prosecuted. This will definitely put a damper on the volume of abortions. If the abortion industry then changes the procedure to wiggle around the stated intent of the law, ie, find some other way to kill the baby during a so-called birthing process, then we'll at least be a step closer to being able to amend the law or write a new one to ban even more abortion procedures.
631 posted on 08/06/2003 1:16:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I think "dodged" is a term that quickly came to their mind as they ignore a very simple question...how will the lp affect any change in the process given their complete lack of any political viability?
632 posted on 08/06/2003 1:17:24 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Jim Robinson
"If the abortion industry then changes the procedure to wiggle around the stated intent of the law, ie, find some other way to kill the baby during a so-called birthing process..."

I believe they would be very hesitent to do this. Once exposed, such an evasion of the law would have a significant impact on public opinion.

633 posted on 08/06/2003 1:20:41 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Here it is my answer to you:

Which still begs the question, how does your libertarian party propose changing anything with abortion without a single elected national or state official in the position to pass legislation?

Not a whit. Nothing, nada, less than nothing. And yet you and others will remind me that Bush is the President of the whole country, warts and all.

At this time, at this place, shouldn't leadership count?

Or is it your plan to simply sit on the sidelines and complain loudy about people who are actually attempting to do something?

Doing something would be defined by "doing something"? Right?

Congress is out of session until the first week of September? Right?

I'm quite glad that they aren't in the "hands of power" for the rest of the month. Aren't you?

634 posted on 08/06/2003 1:21:53 AM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Dodged it at every function? I'm sorry - I don't know what you mean by that. Please explain.

Avoided the issue at a public function. If I'm lying I'm dying. And I could be wrong. It won't be the first time...

635 posted on 08/06/2003 1:26:11 AM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: nunya bidness; CWOJackson
At this time, at this place, shouldn't leadership count?

Sincere question: Is there anything President Bush has done on behalf of the pro-life movement that you would give him credit for?

636 posted on 08/06/2003 1:26:12 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list.)
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To: nunya bidness
Thank you for confirming the obvious. So since the President and Republican are actually attempting to do something your contribution will be to do nothing and sit on the sideline spouting more critisim that they aren't doing enough.
637 posted on 08/06/2003 1:28:03 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: nunya bidness; CWOJackson
I just did a simple Google search for "Bush" "pro-life" - a lot of stuff there. First link I clicked on yielded this.

I'm going to go to bed now, but thanks for the discussion. Have a good one.

P.S. 'Night, Jackson! Night all...

638 posted on 08/06/2003 1:29:16 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list.)
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To: CWOJackson
I believe so too. I also believe that even if they do find a way to kill the baby during a partial birth abortion procedure that doesn't exactly meet the definition in this text, ie, splitting fine hairs about navels or heads being exposed, etc, but the objective and intent was definitely to "kill the baby" then they'll probably be prosecuted anyway.
639 posted on 08/06/2003 1:32:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Nice find. If you do the same search for libertarian party and pro-life you will find this.

Goodnight.

640 posted on 08/06/2003 1:32:55 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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