[unspun]

Certainly we cannot put God to the test. But shouldn't we look at, explore and appreciate that which God has made? (Psalms 33, etc.)

Yes, as we are competent and allowed (and theoretics being different from empiricism). I admit, there are limits imposed upon us by the Lord of our Christian understanding, as to what kinds of empiricism is and is not to be engaged in, here.

Remember, this ground beyond our physical ground, is primarily Relational Ground, for better or worse. (Albeit that our physical ground is Relational as well, but with physical filters.)

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for your reply! Whew! I thought we were in agreement on that.

I admit, there are limits imposed upon us by the Lord of our Christian understanding, as to what kinds of empiricism is and is not to be engaged in, here.

Indeed, and we also have physical limitations. IMHO, one of the most interesting physical limitations is in our vision. We are limited in the number of dimensions we can see. Perhaps that causes a limitation in comprehending higher dimensional dynamics - or perhaps that is yet another such limitation of our mind.

I suspect such physical limitations were intentional and wonder if they may keep us from being aware of what is going on around us, spiritually speaking and in terms of "all that there is."