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Thank you so much for your reply! Whew! I thought we were in agreement on that.

I admit, there are limits imposed upon us by the Lord of our Christian understanding, as to what kinds of empiricism is and is not to be engaged in, here.

Indeed, and we also have physical limitations. IMHO, one of the most interesting physical limitations is in our vision. We are limited in the number of dimensions we can see. Perhaps that causes a limitation in comprehending higher dimensional dynamics - or perhaps that is yet another such limitation of our mind.

I suspect such physical limitations were intentional and wonder if they may keep us from being aware of what is going on around us, spiritually speaking and in terms of "all that there is."

Exactly, A-G (bb is catching up, through a fast slew of posts here; I bet she's at the office, too).

Yes. And it is a 'hypothesis' I regard, that at least much of the time when we have spiritual perceptions, we are utilizing... actually drawing from the perceptors and natures of spirit(s)-other, not just spirit-self. I think this too is explanatory. It is also quite sobering, when we realize that there are only two kinds of spirits we are told about, and these are very acutely distinct in their intentions. So, empiricists of "anima" and "resonance" be aware.

I truly hope that the Relational Nature of... nature and the supernatural is not disregarded. It is our fundamental nature, so I believe we are told --the fundamental nature of all that is. And one may be related with the Intently Benign Source, or with that which is intently harmful.

I suspect such physical limitations were intentional and wonder if they may keep us from being aware of what is going on around us, spiritually speaking and in terms of "all that there is."

Yes, indeed. We are responsible for that with which we are responsible. I used to be involved in a church fellowship that tried to turn our set of responsibilities inside out, as if we were responsible to see and know about vicissitudes spiritual! Shoot, we have enough trouble telling the weather, much less guessing what is going on in that realm of breeze and breath.

So let's regard the signs. When it comes to this subject matter, we find that where there is a sign, "HERE BE DRAGONS," that sign is true and dragons have powers beyond our comprehension. Thankfully, the Lord rules, but that is not a panacea for those who disregard the terms of His contract (a.k.a., Logos, Covenant) and the safe boundaries to which it/He refers -- wheter knowingly or otherwise.