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Their deeds are not necessarily reflective of their public celibacy.

Of course they are. Ghandi and the Dali Lama have said as much.

Men can be truly heroic. Giving up sexual relations can be truly heroic, if done for a cause.

Sorry you can't see that.

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What would you expect them to say?

"If I had not been celebate I could never have achieved such greatness."

Such a suggestion belittles all those family men and women of accomplishment.

[Bluntpoint]

"Ghandi and the Dali Lama have said as much."

Bill and Hillary could make a similar claim about being democrats and connect that with their percieved great acts.