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72 Raisins
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Posted on 08/01/2003 7:15:35 PM PDT by psychopuppy
Challenging the Quran
A German scholar contends that the Islamic text has been mistranscribed and promises raisins, not virgins
By Stefan Theil NEWSWEEK INTERNATIONAL
July 28 issue In a note of encouragement to his fellow hijackers, September 11 ringleader Muhammad Atta cheered their impending marriage in Paradise to the 72 wide-eyed virgins the Quran promises to the departed faithful. Palestinian newspapers have been known to describe the death of a suicide bomber as a wedding to the black-eyed in eternal Paradise. But if a German expert on Middle Eastern languages is correct, these hopes of sexual reward in the afterlife are based on a terrible misunderstanding.
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To: psychopuppy
Islamic text has been mistranscribed and promises raisins, not virgins If they're not happy with raisins, I can give them some partially-digested corn.
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:17:25 PM PDT
by
dead
(Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
To: psychopuppy
I have heard this more than once. And I always wonder if in hell, the hijackers are enjoying Raisin Bran.
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:17:56 PM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
To: psychopuppy
Is he sure it's not prunes?
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:18:16 PM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: dead
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:19:22 PM PDT
by
Thinkin' Gal
(Guten Tag!)
To: psychopuppy
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:21:10 PM PDT
by
TomServo
("Laura Petri, you are charged with treason!")
To: psychopuppy
they heard it through the grapevine.....Bwahahahahahaha. Oh let the translation be true...bwahahahahahahaha.
Red
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:21:15 PM PDT
by
Conservative4Ever
(life is but a dream...Sha Boom)
To: psychopuppy
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:22:08 PM PDT
by
dixiechick2000
("The Prez is as focused as a doberman on a hambone!"---Dennis Miller)
To: Pan_Yans Wife
Raisin Hell.
To: Charles Henrickson
Do you think there's anything to this?
I remember all the errors Dr. Beck found when he did his translation of the Bible, maybe the koran has been copied& translated incorrectly also
To: psychopuppy
He heard it through the Grapevine.
What does it say about a religion based on a book where the distinction between virgins and raisins is blurred.
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posted on
08/01/2003 7:56:34 PM PDT
by
Mike Darancette
(RATS: We're sorry Saddam.)
To: psychopuppy
These Muslim terrorists are clearly dumbasses. All this for 72 rasins?
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:00:11 PM PDT
by
boycott
To: psychopuppy
72 packs of raisins on the wall, 72 packs of raisins .... pass 'em around, gobble 'em down, 71 packs of raisins on the wall. 71 packs of raisins on the wall, 71 packs of raisins .... pass 'em around, pass 'em around ....
To: Ford Fairlane
From the complete article:
. . . what are described as "houris" with "swelling breasts" refer to nothing more than "white raisins" and "juicy fruits." . . . chief hypothesis is that the original language of the Quran was not Arabic but something closer to Aramaic. Rereading the Paradise passage in Aramaic, the mysterious houris turn into raisins and fruit--much more common components of the Paradise myth.
So apparently the question is the similarity of the words for "raisin" and "virgin" in Aramaic (not Arabic). I have studied Hebrew extensively but will not study Aramaic--which is similar to Hebrew--until this winter. Thus I cannot yet say if the two words are close enough that a scribe could mistake one for the other. Such scribal errors do happen with texts, though.
To: Charles Henrickson
Well, Aramaic and Greek were the most common languages in the Eastern Med at the time, my vote goes for Aramaic over Arabic
To: Ford Fairlane
Well, Aramaic and Greek were the most common languages in the Eastern Med at the timeActually, it is more likely that the language was Syriac, not Aramaic (MSNBC error); and other reviews of the Christoph Luxenberg's work seem to indicate so.
But that it was not Arabic is nearly certain (there was no written Arabic yet when Mohammed was doing his preaching and robbing)
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:50:50 PM PDT
by
mvonfr
To: psychopuppy
Hahaahhaaa! I love it!!!!
When life gives you raisins, make oatmeal cookies!
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posted on
08/01/2003 10:41:28 PM PDT
by
TheSpottedOwl
(You bring tar, I'll bring feathers....recall Davis in 03!!!)
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