[DoughtyOne]

Luis, it's a simple concept. It's a concept you still can't grasp. Unable to grasp it you simply declare victory and take a lap. I can live with that.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Sure Ron, a real simple concept.

"...when one is eventually lofted for us...", you will support him (that's what you said), then you said that "lofted for us..." means that you will do the lifting.

Yeah, we all get it Ron...

Like when Bill didn't have sex with Monica, but she had sex with him.

BTW...who is "us"?