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Today's Free Trade is not about the Free Market
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | 08/01/2003 | Jeff Head

Posted on 08/01/2003 2:05:33 PM PDT by Jeff Head

TODAY'S FREE TRADE IS NOT ABOUT THE FREE MARKET

We are in a very real battle in this nation and it is a battle for our heart and soul. It is spread out on many, many fronts...education, foreign policy, work ethic (individually and societally), immigration, the economy, moral values...and the list goes on.

Let's focus on the economy and one significant part of it...a major, growing part of it. Free Trade and foreign outsourcing.

I was going to entitle this article..."I used to make something"...or..."We used to make something in this country". But, I thought better of it and realized that such a statment was really focusing on the tail end of the issue as opposed to the root.

So, instead, I am simply calling it, "Today's Free Trade is not about the Free Market."

And it is so, today's Free Trade is NOT about the free market. Instead, in a very similar manner to other key issues in this battle for the heart and soul of America, what is happening is that a very craftily wordsmithed message of "Free Trade" has been put forth that people have bought into, thinking "How could anyone be against free trade? Why, isn't that all-American?".

Like with abortion, "How could anyone be against a woman's right to choose? Isn't that all American?".

In both cases, the craftily worded title has nothing remotely to do with what is actually going on.

The free market is the system our founders based our commerce on, where the intrinsic, underlying moral values of the people involved in the free market governed the equitable, free exchange of goods and services for other goods and services or currency. Sort of like John Adams said regarding the Constitution...

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798
It is that underlying moral foundation coupled woth our liberty that made the Free Market in America the envy of the world, just like those same issues made our governmental form the envy of the world.

Well, as far as I am conerned, Adam's words could be tailored to this topic like so, ie... The Free Market was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the economy of any other.

This is a basic truth. Like our government, our free market was not supposed to be very regulated or burdened with miriad rules. The people and the companies were to use their own moral foundation to govern themselves. But, when the moral foundation is removed, you do not have what was intended for the Constitution, and you do not have a true free market.

When we use our foreign policy and economic policy to set up shop and trade with countries, societies, organizations or to implement policies that exploit their people's mercilessly, who keep them down without a hope for true liberty or freedom, who trample the moral values our own system was based upon...and when we do it knowingly, without compuction for those very underlying values, then we do not create a free market...no, that free trade has nothing whatsoever to do with, and is in no way similar to the FREE MARKET, rather, it serves to corrupt it.

Such notions, such actions are in fact wordsmithing for popularizing and putting forth a policy to drain the United States manufacturing, technological, agricultural, energy and other critical industries in order to weaken us...plain and simple...and it is working.

Based on my own travels on behalf of US firms and then later consulting for them...that is what is really happening here in my own opinion, and until we refocus as a people on that underlying moral foundation and the absolute need for it...we will continue to lose ground.

By the way, those same principles that are working at the societal level, have equal application at the personal level too...in fact, in the end it is the sum of their working at the personal level that creates the issue at the societal level.

Jeff Head
Engineering Consultant and,
Author of The Dragon's Fury Series
How current conditions could lead to World War

August 1, 2003
Emmett, Idaho


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foreignmfg; freetrade; geopoliticalrisk; landgrab; outsourcing; peterprinciple; soveriegnty
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To: Eustace
We and the rest of the world CHOOSE to be controlled by the select few elites , that don't really exist.

Go to your designated place of pickup at once, and wait for further orders. Bring your swastika armband and fountain pen.

The password is "fnord".

321 posted on 08/03/2003 8:38:20 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: CARepubGal
Most people who speak of Zionism are refering to what they consider are a small, elite group of people of Jewish anscestory who have their own geo-political agenda.

That's what I meant by them and I was speaking of what people are tyically referring to when they speak of that term from what I have been able to gather.

As I stated, there may well be very influential people of that persuasion involved in advancing that type of world governance view...but it is certainly not limited to them. It exists amongst people of all races, creeds and colors where certain individuals or groups amongst them get it in their head that they can run things for the rest of us better than we can run it freely oursleves.

Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and others of that ilk were infected with the same poison. We have it within elements of our own government as well, particularly and in the greatest numbers (IMHO) amongst the liberal/socialist/marxist leadership in the DNC.

322 posted on 08/03/2003 10:28:04 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and others of that ilk were infected with the same poison. We have it within elements of our own government as well, particularly and in the greatest numbers (IMHO) amongst the liberal/socialist/marxist leadership in the DNC.

.I totally agree.

Have you ever wondered why so many of these different groups also refer to the "Zionists", and blame the Jews for everything?
323 posted on 08/03/2003 10:48:23 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium; Jeff Head
Can't the term Socialist be used to greater effect? it is a neutral term that denotes the poison well.
324 posted on 08/03/2003 10:52:59 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: CARepubGal; Jeff Head
Thats why I believe there is more behind the word "Zionist". It usually means anti-Jew. If not, why not just use the term Socialist, or as Jeff put it "liberal/socialist/marxist"?.
325 posted on 08/03/2003 10:57:21 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: CARepubGal; Delphinium; Eustace; betty boop; joanie-f
This has been a good discussion and hopefully one that has aired things a good deal.

CARepubGal, there are many terms for those opposed to our constitutional Republic and the liberty it represents...World Governance, Third Way, One World, etc., etc.

I believe it is important to understand what people are talking about before we shoot the messenger as regards these terms.

In that regard, I happen to know Eustace personally and know that he is not rascist, that he and his wife and kids are pretty much all-American and that he is concerned about his nation nad his kids future and welfare. In my travels across this nation he took the time to go out of his way a couple of times and meet me so we could sit down and eat together. Most of us on FR share the same concerns Eustace and his wife have.

I'm not into neutral terms when it comes to the defense of my liberty and way of life...heck, anyone who reads my book series knows that. That's not to say that those neutral terms are bad in and of themsleves, it just (at least from my perspective) tends to water down and deflect the focus.

I do not believe Zionism, as it is used in conjunction with those seeking world governance, is a racist term at all. As I stated, it is no more racist to oppose that definition than it is to oppose the NAACP. I do believe a lot of time and effort has been put into getting us all to believe it is racist and that raises red flags to me.

Now, that is not to say that there aren't racists who use the term, just like there are racists who oppose the NAACP. That does not mean we should cease our opposition to organizations like the NAACP, just make sure we are doing so for the right reasons and are not manuevered into leaving them alone entirely.

Socialist/Marxist/One Worlders/Third Wayers/World Governance/Zionist (as defined here) ... all of them are part and parcel of the same effort. And that effort is to destroy individual liberty, knowledge of and the exercise of unalienable rights, the free market and the ability for individual to defned that way of life.

I'll tell you, the biggest conspiracy of all is who is behind ALL of that, and he has been conspiring to fight these Godly principles for thousands of years, since the very beginning. That's why understanding morality and the part God has played in all of this (whom the framers rghtly ascribed our rights as being endowed by) is so critical. In fact, in the end, it is indespensable in this fight.

...and that brings us back, at least in my opinion, to the topic of this thread. Which is about how the free market is really based on the same moral foundation as our constitution and that when those priciples are removed from it...it ceases to be the true free market and becomes corrupted. That is what is really going on here in my view.

Best Fregards to all

327 posted on 08/04/2003 5:54:58 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Travis McGee
"It's economic suicide to have free trade with a slave nation.

Unless your goal is to reduce your own nation to slave status." - TM

Exactly.

328 posted on 08/04/2003 7:54:47 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Delphinium
Thats why I believe there is more behind the word "Zionist". It usually means anti-Jew.

I suggest you look up Theodore Herzl and his World Zionist Organization. Here's a link(laudatory at the Zionist Movement Pavilion):

. Theodor Herzl (1860-1904) Herzl, Benjamin Zev (Theodor), 1860 - 1904 Writer and statesman. Founder of national Zionism and the World Zionist Organization, which elevated the Jewish problem to an international political subject of primary importance. His name and lifework, the...... http://www.wzo.org.il/home/movement/herzl.htm

329 posted on 08/04/2003 8:55:22 AM PDT by jedi
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To: Triple
I don't think the NWO pushers want us to be slaves necessarily,

but they sure do want to be the masters.


330 posted on 08/04/2003 9:12:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Eustace; Jeff Head
People are conspiring to create World government, it's not my imagination.........

I agree, but you have not given me proof that they are the "Zionists" You mentioned a few Jewish names, but there are many more names.

Why is the U.N. so anti-semtic?

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/UN/unantisem.html

http://www.historynewsnetwork.org/articles/684.html

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-mowbray050602.asp

While visiting Northern Virginia in January I went to The Patriot rally to counter the so-called peace rally. My freeper friend Mudboy Slim, and I got misdirected and ended up right in the middle of these protestors. Speakers like Ramsey Clark were calling for the overthrow of the American form of government. I was shocked to see all of the anti-Jew signs etc. Not just from Muslims, but many leftist, hippy types who hated, and blamed "Zionists". We went into a restaurant where a Japanese immigrant blamed the Jews for everything. When I came home one of our local Idaho liberals blamed the Jews. I get all of this email from so-called Patriots, and blaming the Jews?, or "Zionists"

I asked one of these so-called patriots: What did Hitler have to do with the "Constitution? He took guns away from people" His answer to me was "He only took guns away from the bad people"

I can't count how many times in my political work that I have had some wacko tell me the hologuast did not happen.

Makes no sense? Why would both the far so-called right, and the left agree about the Jews?
331 posted on 08/04/2003 11:50:07 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: jedi
I spent hours looking over that site, and can't find anything that leads me to believe that the "Zionists are responsible for the Socialist/Marxist/OneWorlders/Third Wavers/World Government.

"You declare that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely anti-Zionist. And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God’s green earth: when people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews. This is God’s own truth. Anti-Semitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind…Anti-Zionism is inherently anti-Semitic and ever will it be so. …Zionism is nothing less than the dream and ideal of the Jewish people returning to live in their own land… And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and freely accord all other nations of the globe. It is discrimination against the Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is anti-Semitism. Martin Luther King Jr. “

Can you explain to me what the “Bohemian Grove” is?
332 posted on 08/04/2003 11:58:11 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Filibuster_60
Bingo. Although one thing, their capitalism is subverted by their latter day naive utopianism. They want the benefits of capitalism, but they do not wholdheartedly subscribe to the core cultural concepts which underpin capitalism.
333 posted on 08/04/2003 2:33:31 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Jeff Head
We very badly need to use geopolitical risk as a factor which gets applied, in the public policy arena, to all trade deals and export controls, and, in the private sector, to sourcing and marketing decisions. The geopolitical analysis skills do not apparently exist to a large enough extent in either realm, woe unto us.
334 posted on 08/04/2003 2:40:27 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Eustace
You give the Western elites far too much credit. There are many out there in the anti Western world who are not beholden to the old Western European banking families. By causing patriots to turn against these old fools, instead of our external enemies, you and your Faux Right Jacobin ilk actually help to sow the seeds of the collapse of the West. Imagine all extremists, left and faux right (true Rightists, such as myself, not included) tearing down the governing institutions and what is left of our economy from within. Do you actually think that all the bogeymen named by Quigley and later W. Cleon Skousen will be the winners when the West falls? If so, then I feel sorry for you, you will be shocked and awed when we get conquered by those who will destroy the Old World money men, liberal intellectuals and the well bred alike. There are no sacred cows when barbarians attack.
335 posted on 08/04/2003 2:53:16 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Texas_Dawg
"Would you drop a nuclear bomb on China today (meaning, right now, August 1st, 2003) if you had the chance?" is a complex question?

We should have done in in 1950.

Well, if you changed it to a lot, well I'd be more inclined. B-P At least hand me the keys to a B-52, you'll have your answer. B-) Too bad we didn't put the B-70 Valkerie in production, I'd like to do it with style. B-)

I'm being semi-sarcastic here, but I admit the thought would have crossed my mind at one point or another. Arming the Pakistanis a bit more might be a good idea too (hint/hint). B-Q

Seriously, I think it is a matter of time before we get into it with Red China, it's headed that way. In Russia, they are concerned about them too especially with a huge amount of humanity knocking on Siberia's door and with the Russians declining in population. The only way to stop the Red Chinese would be using nukes if you cannot field a huge army to stop them conventionally. I've read the synopsis to Jeff's books and the take I get is that Red China is just playing nice to get Western technology then once they get it up and running, will tell us to go fly a kite and then come after us. I dunno if and when that time comes, they will have the "ro-ro" ability to invade the United States but I'm sure they'd have the nukes to take us out and maybe overrun Russia. Russia might be a pin in the butt at times but I think we do need them to help offset Red China. India, I don't know, they are a wild card, if they go with Red China, we are in for the ride of our lives.

If it ever came down to nuking Red China, well, it could come down to that, we should have done it in 1950, I don't think we need to do it right now, in the future, who knows, I just pray to God that it doesn't come about and if it has to be that way, I hope He gives our President the wisdom to make that decision and the blessing to the United States that we come out of it relatively well.
336 posted on 08/04/2003 3:11:21 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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To: belmont_mark
I can only deal with the names of people who continually come up in America's history.

I have only gone back threehundred years and Rothschild's name keeps coming up. His associates Jacob Schiff and Paul Warburg keep coming up. And I'm talking about the whole three hundred years. To me that proves conspiracy , for the same agenda/goal to be persued through generations by the same families.

I don't read about them saving starving children , only making profits from wars , that some say they helped cause.

I don't go that far , because what happens behind closed doors is very hard to prove. I'm sure if American's knew how much of a role their own government played in New York , there would be some people hanging from trees.

I'm not asking for anyone to destroy America's government , only put it back in its place.

I don't believe the federal reserve is good for American's , the working class anyway.

I've argued enough about the people who own the majority of the stock of the privately owned Central Bank , so I won't do it here , but it all goes back to Rothschild , Warburg and Schiff.

I'm not through looking for a solution , so if you have other names and actions I'm more than happy to learn.

I do not want to cause hate towards any one Race , but I won't "not" talk about people I believe are doing my country harm. I have never had a good word to say about Bush or Clinton or Rockefeller.

The Truth isn't very pretty , but I believe the future of America should be decided and based on Truth. How else can we make the changes necessary for a better future.

There is nothing I want more than to walk through my cities neighborhoods and be able to greet everyone as neighbors. The differences between us , many I don't even know , have never bothered me. As long as you mean me or my family no harm.

I guess if all Jews don't want to be accused along with the likes of the Rothschild's they should quit defending them. Appearance is important.

337 posted on 08/04/2003 4:39:43 PM PDT by Eustace
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To: Delphinium
Like Hitler and Stalin, you have a number of very bad people/orgainzations/movements/ideologies using one another in all of their aims to try and pull down the United States IMHO.

In the end, the fight is a moral and a spiritual one at its root. Basic, fundamental moral principle and rights against compulsion and control. There are many, many components from economics to education to politics to social issues, etc.

Like I said, if you fight for liberty, true liberty based on those moral principles and our unalienable rights...then you will be arrayed against all of these forces...whose strings are no doubt being pulled by, as Paul would say in the New testament, spiritual wickedness in high places.

Anyhow, as I said, I am focusing this thread on the trade issues...and how the so called free trade of the day is, IMHO, a sham that is hurting the free market and our republic.

338 posted on 08/04/2003 4:42:24 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: belmont_mark
I agree...and have tried to cosult with firms to implement such analysis and to establish their operations accordingly, using very straight forward risk analysis to ensure that their operations are located in enough areas to avoid having all the eggs in one basket. Most are not interested in hearing.
339 posted on 08/04/2003 4:44:45 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: tiamat
Tia,

I still wonder about the wisdom, even the morality, of trying to break someone else's rice bowl. To attempt to so do for moral reasons important to the one depriving the 'victim' of their livelihood - however tenuous that livelihood may be, seems inherently questionable to me.
340 posted on 08/04/2003 6:09:20 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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