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To: Dr Warmoose
Oh for crying out loud. The only reason I can think of that Jesus wouldn't go to a rock concert is that he wanted to TALK to people where ever he went, and you can't talk at those things. You can't even HEAR for an hour after you leave (or more). What would be the point?

Even if he did, it wouldn't be 'blasphemy'. Good grief! Jesus hung out with the untouchables, the riff raff, the people everyone else was 'too good' for. He didn't do it simply because "that's where they were", he did it because they were the ones who wanted to hear him!

The religious bigots, control-freaks, and upper-crust types couldn't STAND his choice of company, or his lifestyle, or his statements, or his choice of disciples. Jesus went where hearts were hungry and fertile, not where they were paved over with concrete and private drives.

Even today, there are 'Christians' snootily despising everyone who isn't doing everything EXACTLY as THEY would, who isn't quite as RELIGIOUS as they are, as CONCERNED about holiness, yada yada yada. These folks remind me of the people having Bible studies in hell in C.S. Lewis' The Great Divorce.

All of the rules and regs and anal-retentive blabbing can be very impressive but it's all 'sound and fury, signifying nothing' if it's too good for some people and reserved only for those who can spar properly during uppity little theological discussions. Jesus is NOT impressed.

If you can't imagine Jesus hanging out downtown where the street kids are or outside of a rock concert or in Harlem or at the mall or where ever certain people would be shocked to see him go, you have been away from the four Gospels for WAY to long. Get back into the Gospels. Refresh your mind and your heart. Get radical. Get stirred up again. Get your perspective blown away, it's suffering from cerebral constipation. Let all things 'become new' again.

Jesus sees it so differently than we all do. As soon as you think you've got it figured out, you're tying yourself in knots. Maybe the silly WWJD thing actually helped a few people, who knows?

"God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, that no flesh should glory in his presence." I Cor 1:27-29

In other words, he keeps us guessing, he won't be figured out. Personally I like him that way. Means he's a lot bigger than we are. So WWJD all day long if that's what rolls your socks up. If it doesn't, pass it by, don't worry about it. In the end, God has all of US figured out.

Okay, soap box gone. Flame away. I have my marshmallows ready.
35 posted on 08/01/2003 9:54:18 AM PDT by bluejean
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To: bluejean
Okay, soap box gone. Flame away. I have my marshmallows ready.

Ah, good, someone to play with. :)

In other words, [Jesus] keeps us guessing, he won't be figured out.

Thanks for admitting that you don't read the Bible, nor cared for what it contains, because to do so, you would then know about Jesus and you wouldn't be pleased to keep guessing. (John 1). Didn't Jesus' ministry have to do with revealing Himself to the world? (John 15:15; 16:13-16; 17:6-8; Eph 3:3-4; 1 Cor 2:16)

Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

Jesus went where hearts were hungry and fertile, not where they were paved over with concrete and private drives.

Actually the tax-collectors were some of the most wealthy men in Israel. But you are correct in that His ministry was for those in need. In the end though, they still gathered together and killed Him. So I'm not quite sure what your point is.

Even if [Jesus] did [go to a rock concert], it wouldn't be 'blasphemy'.

There are no "if's", Jesus didn't attend a rock concert, so there is no fruit in speculating to the fruit of doing so. What I find objectionable and blasphemous is that people are quick to project their immoral lifestyle and corrupt feelings on to Christ. If I wanted to say "Niggers are cursed by God", then I would go make-up some crap about the curse on Ham (actually it was on Ham's son) and then say Ham begat black people. I could then go around and wear a white hood and feel OK about it. Similarly, many people are addicted to music of the sex, drug and rebellion culture and make up some crap that Jesus would indulge in pagan behavior so therefore it is OK for them to do it too. They of course rip out of the loose leaf Bibles that light has no fellowship with darkness (2 Cor 6:14-17), no one can serve two masters (Matt 6:24), one should remain pure and undefiled by the world (James 4:8). Because it is Fun, Fun, Fun to cavort with the world. The American Religion says "Come As You Are" and teaches "Stay As You Came".

All of the rules and regs and anal-retentive blabbing can be very impressive but it's all 'sound and fury, signifying nothing'

Actually you lifted part of this from 1 Cor 13:1-2, but typical of the American Religion, altered it so much that it loses its meaning and adopts your own propaganda. Eve did this in the garden too, just prior to her rebelling against God. "Rules and Regs" wasn't some comedy act by God to trap people.(Romans 2) Murder, lying, adultery, homosexuality, gossiping have not been repealed despite the antinomian bleatings of the American Religion. Believers are told not to associate with those who are still living in sin. When the neo-evangelicals say "the law was nailed to the cross", they are actually saying "there is no such thing as sin", or that is at least the way they conduct themselves. So that is why the Southern Baptists how justify "fellowshipping" and "worshipping" with active sodomites and adulterers. If you want to see "anal-retentive" just wait until Judgment Day when every word uttered will be recalled, every thought and every deed. God is not some sort of good 'ol boy whose holiness is so subject to compromise that He lets things slide.

Maybe the silly WWJD thing actually helped a few people, who knows?

Given that WWJD is of anti-Christ, and Romans 10:17 clearly and umabiguously teaches that faith comes by hearing of the Word of God, I think your assertion is bogus and contradicted. And lets see the context of what you hacked out of your prooftexting 1 Cor 1:27-29 you would have noticed that vv 27-29 were in defense of the practice of (v21) "...it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe."
Notice it didn't say through "fashion jewelry and pithy T-Shirts".

37 posted on 08/01/2003 11:09:14 AM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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