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To: dirtboy
"But others who were initially on your side agreed that the party that addresses these issues will be in the catbird seat come 2008."

Do I detect a third party agenda here?!

You're a libertarian or some such, aren't you?!

570 posted on 08/01/2003 10:50:55 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Do I detect a third party agenda here?! You're a libertarian or some such, aren't you?!

When all else fails, try to impunge the motives of the other party, eh? From a previous post of mine on this thread.

And that's exactly the point I am making. There are major issues nowadays of job loss due to outsourcing overseas, illegal immigration and the H1-B/L1 visas. There is the genesis of a completely new political movement happening now. The party that realizes it will be in power in 2008. If neither party realizes it, a new party will form and will be the dominant party then - and it will probably be center-left. The only way it can be center-right is if Bush and the GOP start understanding this sea change and adapt to it NOW.

I would hope that the GOP is the party that realizes what is going on. As it is, if the GOP and the Dems fail to realize it, I think a third party will probably form and obliterate the Dems, who have become the party of victim groups. But that is NOT something that I want to happen, as such a party could get ugly in a hurry.

Look, spin-boy, the GOP won't have a presidential primary this year. We won't have the ability to present ideas and candidates and air out differences this time around. So NOW is the time to listen to what the various factions are saying, and respond to them instead of belittling them. Your tactics will only drive your base away, instead of holding it in place. And if Bush and Rove emulate your approach here, they'll get creamed by swing voters who are feeling the economic uncertainty.

573 posted on 08/01/2003 10:59:16 AM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again? I thought he went extinct...)
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