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To: luckydevi
Government regulation never works and for some odd reason it causes harm.

You didn't answer. Do you think that it's a good idea to continue H1-B visas when we no longer have a shortage of IT workers and instead have a couple million IT workers looking for employment?

The truth is once the economy turns around( and it will be sooner rather than later), this will be a non-issue

Sorry, but this is a much more profound shift than simple cyclical economics.

472 posted on 07/31/2003 2:33:54 PM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again?)
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To: dirtboy
this is a much more profound shift than simple cyclical economics

That's the most accurate point I've seen on this entire thread. The problem with focusing on H1-Bs is that it is already a dead issue. It is much more cost effective to have the programmers stay in their home country and outsource the services overseas.

So now the question becomes one of tariffs/protection. IIRC, in modern times, this country has never placed taxes on imported goods/services EXCEPT when it was proven that they were being sold BELOW their production costs or outright protection of certain industries; eg the Japanse steel/automotive import battles of the 1980s.

Since programming services outsourced to Indian companies are being provided above their cost of production (ie there aren't any gov't subsidies covering the differential), nor are there only 3 big software firms accounting for 100% of US production (a la autos), I find it very difficult to believe that the US will enact any type of tariffs.

If that is the case, then it is futile to waste any time fighting this issue. Given the state of communications technology, technical services can be easily outsourced to foreign countries. Low skill, geographically constrained (local) jobs are subect to displacement from (illegal) immigration.

The key is to find jobs that are local and require good English/inter-personal skills. I was having my car repaired at the local dealer and marveled at how busy it was. In heavily illegal SoCal, every single person was a native English speaker - not just the mechanics, but everyone.

Got me thinking (always a dangerous thing).

482 posted on 07/31/2003 7:14:12 PM PDT by Snerfling
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To: All
The real point every Freeper should understand is that a vast majority of the techies feel threatened regardless of their skill sets. The many other professions of the middle-class are also beginning to become aware of the issue and some of them feel threatened as well. Whether or not their fear is misplaced is completely irrelevant.

The Republicans had better clear the air or they will lose more votes than they realize.
483 posted on 07/31/2003 7:18:37 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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