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It's India calling for US white collar exodus
Economic Times of India ^ | July 30, 2003 | DEBJIT CHAKRABORTY

Posted on 07/30/2003 2:20:00 AM PDT by sarcasm

NEW DELHI: The United States of America is currently facing a double whammy, thanks to the growing tide of "outsourcing" worldwide. While high-paying tech jobs are moving overseas - especially to India, US workers are being replaced by their less demanding (in terms of dollars) foreign counterparts.

Just as millions of American manufacturing jobs were lost in the 1980s and 1990s, it's now turn for the white-collar American jobs to disappear. Foreign nationals on special work visas are filling some positions but most jobs are simply contracted out overseas.

A US media report said that till now nearly half-a-million American tech jobs have already found their way offshore, and India has been the hottest spot for these migrants. The other destinations include Philippines, Malaysia and China.

A survey done by Gartner Inc. says that one out of 10 jobs in the US computer services and software industry could shift to lower-cost emerging markets by the end of 2004.

Research director at Forrester Research, John McCarthy, who has studied the exodus of white-collar jobs overseas, was quoted as saying in ABC TV, "The train has left the station, the cows have left the barn, the toothpaste is out of the tube... you're not going to turn the tide on this in the same way we couldn't turn the tide on the manufacturing shift."

After all, it's all about cost savings that matters. Indians are all working at a fraction of the cost paid to the American workers. For example, American computer programmers earn about $60,000, while their Indian counterparts only make $6,000.

California-based consulting company - NeoIT - that advises American firms interested in "offshoring" jobs previously held by Americans feels, "They need to significantly reduce their cost of doing business."

While, Wipro's Vivek Paul notes that American workers might resent the "offshoring" trend, but all Americans will benefit in the long run.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: india; outsourcing
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To: BA63; harpseal; Sunnyvale CA Eng.; clamper1797; sarcasm; BrooklynGOP; A. Pole; Zorrito; ...
While, Wipro's Vivek Paul notes that American workers might resent the "offshoring" trend, but all Americans will benefit in the long run.

Isn't this like pissing on your back and telling you it's raining?
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BA63, AH-YUP! Peace and love, George.
81 posted on 07/30/2003 9:33:08 AM PDT by George Frm Br00klyn Park (FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!)
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To: FITZ
No ---for that they import millions of unskilled illiterate people from the third world who will do it for less than minimum wage and ask for no health insurance benefits so the taxpayer must subsidize them with free medical care and food stamps.

Free trade with third world countries and massive illegal immigration, the results are there for everyone to see.

Five more years of these policies and I can expect to spend the rest of my life living under a democratic regime, that's who the unemployed and poor are going to vote for. Now that is tyranny and repression.

82 posted on 07/30/2003 9:34:20 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Question_Assumptions
Other than my computer, I don't live any different than people did back then. Maybe I use CD's instead of 8 track tapes. I don't have cell phones, cable tv or most of the stuff you mention ---but partly because I like living in the black like people did more back then.
83 posted on 07/30/2003 9:36:26 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Question_Assumptions
I'm not so sure you're right ----the 70s weren't hard times ---you could buy gas for $0.30 a gallon, a new car for $3000-6000, an apartment for $150 a month, owning a vacation home or cottage was common for the average peron, and if you had a high school diploma, you could work in a factory and make $15 an hour. Wages for many people are right where they were back then or even lower.
84 posted on 07/30/2003 9:40:48 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Poohbah
Charge cards and credit have been the downfall of America. We spend way over what we earn.
85 posted on 07/30/2003 10:02:19 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park
Isn't this like pissing on your back and telling you it's raining?

I actually consider it more insulting along the lines of "...Shut up and enjoy it you know this rape is good for you."

86 posted on 07/30/2003 10:08:15 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Lazamataz
I think the term "free traitor" is unnecessarily loaded and harsh. I think the more accurate term is "unequal traders", and we can call free trade "unequal trade". After all, that's what it is.

Well I will agree the term "Free Traitor is loaded and very harsh. The ineccisarily loaded part I believe is very debatable. Now I prefer to usually refer to them as those who argue for the current tarde envirornment which is anything but Free Trade no matter what they call it. But the ratuional for free traitors is as follows. China has stated tehy are engaged in economic warfare against the USA. Those who support the current trade envirornment and call it Free Trade are not only lying they are giving direct support to a nation that freely admits to being at war with the USA. Benedict Arnold merely gave information to teh British in return for maney and a better job. Many of those who syupport so called Free Trade routinely admit their motivation is financial. Where is the difference between General arnold and those people?

However, I shall try to restrain myself from using teh term "Free Traitor" a whole lot.

87 posted on 07/30/2003 10:23:09 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: harpseal
However, I shall try to restrain myself from using teh term "Free Traitor" a whole lot.

You may but I won't ... anyway thanks for posting to Go-ordinance for me yesterday ... I did get my boat and it may not be as broke as I originally thought

88 posted on 07/30/2003 11:00:57 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff,

Replying to your post #31.

I don't know you, but, if you write a book, I am going to buy it!

BA63
89 posted on 07/30/2003 11:04:29 AM PDT by BA63
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To: Poohbah
YOU sir are correct! Funny how people are SOOOOOO concerned about their "image" of a career...and live paycheck to paycheck.
90 posted on 07/30/2003 11:17:26 AM PDT by antivenom (BEING OFFENDED means never having to answer an argument)
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To: clamper1797
Glad to help. I did not invent the term Free Traitor and if can persuade more people without using it so be it. I said I would try to refrain from using it a whole lot not that I woud totally abjure using it.
91 posted on 07/30/2003 11:26:05 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Jeff Head
The people, the companies will govern themselves as to moral issues when this is the case. But, when the moral issues are removed, you do not have what was intended for the Constitution, and you do not have a true free market.

Yes, what we have under the current “so-called” leadership in Washington is Corporate Welfarism. Our government through foreign lobbying and the enactment of 10,000+ page Insider Trade Deals has given corporations (especially big party contributors) free reign to ship American Jobs overseas with impunity. They can even replace American Workers here with Foreigners under L1 and H1B visas!

Who picks up the tab for social costs when millions of Americans lose their Jobs? The American Taxpayer of course! This is all about Gov/Biz Cronyism and like you so eloquently pointed out it—it has virtually nothing to do with free trade.

The bottom line of the treasonous trade policies our government has put forth is that it enriches and rewards repressive regimes where freedom does not exist while destroying America’s wealth, culture and system of governance.

With leaders in Washington like this who needs enemies?

92 posted on 07/30/2003 11:48:22 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Five more years of these policies and I can expect to spend the rest of my life living under a democratic regime, that's who the unemployed and poor are going to vote for. Now that is tyranny and repression.

That's exactly what is going to happen.

93 posted on 07/30/2003 11:52:18 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park
"While, Wipro's Vivek Paul notes that American workers might resent the "offshoring" trend, but all Americans will benefit in the long run."

Isn't this like pissing on your back and telling you it's raining?

LOL. Perfect Analogy.

94 posted on 07/30/2003 11:55:24 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: FITZ
The '70s didn't feel like hard times at the time but they would today for many people. My grandparents had a vacation home during the WW2 period but that didn't mean that that era would feel easy by today's standards, either. In some cases, people simply choose to spend money on the extras (e.g., extra televisions, cable, cell phones, air conditioning, etc.) and sometimes they have no choice but to pay for extras (e.g., all of the extra things that cars must now have for safety and polution control).

I remember my childhood in the 1970s pretty well. I remember cars without air conditioners, houses without air conditioners, one television set per house (receiving broadcast stations), one telephone in the kitchen, no personal computers, no video games, expensive long distance calls, cars with AM radios, fast food and prepared meals as a rarity, no day care, no expensive skateboards or competition quality bicycles, sneakers from Keds or K-Mart, etc., etc., etc. We simply have a lot more stuff now than we did now. Was my childhood rough? Of course not. That was middle-class suburbia in New Jersey and I was fine.

I know people who don't have cable to satellite television, have old clunky computers, old cars without A/C, who don't eat out, use day care, by fancy name-brand clothes, etc. You can still live pretty frugally if you want to but most people don't want to.

The only thing I will agree with you on is real estate. It simply isn't possible to find a cheap place to live. And if I had to guess (I haven't seen the figures), I'd say that the percentage of income that people spend on real estate and taxes is a large part of what has gone up and food, basic clothing, etc. as a percentage of a person's income probably hasn't increased all that much or may have gone down. Part of the problem is that real estate prices are now pegged for double-income families, something that was only starting to be felt in the 1970s.

95 posted on 07/30/2003 12:12:13 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: BA63
The Dragon's Fury Sereis
How current conditions and policies can lead to World War III.
96 posted on 07/30/2003 12:25:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: BlazingArizona
Hell, that's nothing. Once I did business in California.

...and you lived?

97 posted on 07/30/2003 12:26:57 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Jeff Head
Forgive my ignorance, I had no idea you are writing a series. I checked out the link, impressive. All I was trying to do was compliment you on your exquisite response in this thread I certainly didn't realize you were an author.

However, I am a man of my word, I will purchase Breath of Fire to get started unless you have a better suggestion.

Question: how would I get you to sign a copy of the book for me?

BA63
98 posted on 07/30/2003 2:04:27 PM PDT by BA63
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To: thoughtomator
I wish someone could explain how this benefits Americans.

You may be behind the power curve. Once personal investments have achieved a level [that varies from person to person,] further success in business is greeted warmly, not with consternation. Some of the collar jobs, white or blue, are already gone, but those who have invested wisely and not borrowed up to the hilt for SUVs, houses, things for the house are in good positions. Instant gratification by possession of symbols of affluence is not affluence. A big-wheel pickup truck in the hands of a college student is not a party aid, but an economic anchor. Our Federal debt is over $6 trillion, our personal debt is at least that much. We'll be forced, often by early choices, to work for the rest of our lives just to get back to even, and that is why disappearing jobs seems so serious.

99 posted on 07/30/2003 2:15:36 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: BA63
You have fremail...but please, don't feel compelled or duty-bound to get the books. Get them because they look interesting and like something you would enjoy reading and telling other people about.

Best Fregards.

100 posted on 07/30/2003 3:52:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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