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U.S. shrugs off world's address shortage
news.com ^ | July 28, 2003, 4:00 AM PT | Ben Charny

Posted on 07/28/2003 1:36:12 PM PDT by glorgau

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To: Cyber Liberty
Yeah... we invent it... the Chinese need billions of more machines to host our criminal element, flogging H*E*R*B*A*L**V*I*A*G*R*A and other scams, so we are supposed to make it easy for them.

Actually, now that DOD SIPRNET is going V6 with DOD NIPRNET right behind, it's only a matter of time until the major vendors and major ISPs are fully behind it. It will appear in backbones first (the first 6bone was running in the USA in the nineties already). It will be pretty transparent to end users... but there are big benefits for ISPs in security, quality of service, and traffic prioritization.

By the way, guess which continent V6 was invented on.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
21 posted on 07/28/2003 2:07:58 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Adam-ondi-Ahman
That sounds like a lot now, but when each one of my sixteen million nanocomputers has its own address, what am I going to do then? I guess I'll have to kick the dog off the network.
22 posted on 07/28/2003 2:10:46 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
By the way, guess which continent V6 was invented on.

Antarctica. By the team of super-smart geniuses that work there (so smart their colleagues are having affairs with their wives back in the states)?

23 posted on 07/28/2003 2:11:08 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: chilepepper
We should not rest until every light bulb in the world has it's own personal IP address.
24 posted on 07/28/2003 2:17:23 PM PDT by Luke
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To: Liberal Classic
here are a lot of colleges and businesses who still have class-B blocks of addresses they don't need.

They're gradually being put back into the pool...

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

25 posted on 07/28/2003 2:23:21 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: ko_kyi
2^128 = 3.4 x 10^38. A really big number, but nowhere close to a googol (10^100).
26 posted on 07/28/2003 2:24:53 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Paranoia is when you realize that tin foil hats just focus the mind control beams.)
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To: glorgau
This whole mess is due primarily to the idiot practices of network mapping in Asia. It is not the fault of the United States in any way. At present, IPv4 can accommodate over FOUR BILLION unique IPs. Were this applied intelligently with NAT'd LANs, this address space could easily last us at least another 20 years.

Sadly, the Asian nations have gone out of their way to p!ss away all the address space they've been allocated and have been snapping up Class A netblocks like they're going out of style. (As a consequence, the entire IPv4 space is going out of style!)

Hell, the Japanese only recently acquired the 43/8 Class A netblock and already they're spewing spam like there's no tomorrow! These people are either so corrupt or so incompetent that they can't even control the network space they already have. Putting them on IPv6 space is going to be like putting an alcholic in charge of a winery.

Ah well...eventually we'll all switch over to IPv6. That's fine with me. I'm already scripting out how I'm going to blackhole all of Asia when that time comes.

-Jay

27 posted on 07/28/2003 2:26:15 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Leftists are like any other lower life form...they devour their own when it suits their purpose.)
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To: sourcery; Ernest_at_the_Beach
ping
28 posted on 07/28/2003 2:44:30 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I see it's somehow become North America's fault.

Of course its our fault, we invented the internet and the world wide web, and let the world use it. This is how the world pays back america....with blame.

29 posted on 07/28/2003 2:53:33 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: glorgau
That means more jobs.

All outsourced to India.

30 posted on 07/28/2003 2:55:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
By the way, guess which continent V6 was invented on.

Asia.

31 posted on 07/28/2003 2:56:50 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: tortoise
We are rapidly approaching the day when everyone will have (at least) one /30 (or its IPv6 equivalent) assigned to them, which will burn up the address space very quickly NAT or not.

I bet one of the desires is that each person be assigned an IP to allow their internet activities to be much more easily tracked.

32 posted on 07/28/2003 2:58:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz
Just yours. We're only interested in what you do.
33 posted on 07/28/2003 3:00:09 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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34 posted on 07/28/2003 3:03:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz
Hey, you don't have to tell me....I already knew.

Carnivore's a bitch, unless you own one.

35 posted on 07/28/2003 3:07:02 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: glorgau
It's great that when Al Gore invented the internet, he allocated 70% of the addresses to the US.
38 posted on 07/28/2003 3:24:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Jay D. Dyson
While agree with your point I would point out that while NAT'd LANs save millions of public IPs in mostly business situations and multi PC home configurations they provide no saving solution to the web enabled phones, PDAs and millions of single PC home connections.

While I have one client with 6 public IPs supporting 300+ PCs and Servers it does little when the 30% and growing of metro's 1 million home users goes to DSL and Cable.
39 posted on 07/28/2003 3:29:10 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: unix
So it uses hexidecimal?
40 posted on 07/28/2003 5:22:28 PM PDT by Bogey78O (I'll vote Conservative till I die....Democrat soon after)
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