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Defining an American Car
MSN.com ^ | found 7/26/2003 | Ann Job

Posted on 07/26/2003 7:54:22 PM PDT by 1rudeboy

Edited on 07/26/2003 8:18:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The 2004 Saturn VUE;the first General Motors Corp. vehicle to be offered with a Honda-built engine;is more "American" than the 2003 VUE that doesn't have the Honda engine. What? How can this be?

The proof is there in the federal government-mandated content labels affixed to the VUEs' windows.

Keith Chartrau, launch planner for VUE, said the so-called domestic content label on 2004 VUEs with Honda's 3.5-liter V6 will show "an increase" in domestic content, because the Honda-supplied engine is built in Ohio. Final, exact percentages on the 2004 VUE's content were still being worked up, he added.

Previous six-cylinder VUEs had an engine that came from and was built by GM of Europe, which did not count as domestic content because the engines were manufactured overseas and shipped to the VUE's assembly plant in Tennessee. Note, though, that Saturn's parent company; is headquartered in Detroit, and Saturn was designed at GM's studios in the Detroit area.

Welcome to the weird world of automotive lineage. Tracking the content of vehicles today is a mind-numbing experience, even for folks in the auto industry.

With each car having as many as 20,000 parts, it's easy to see why automakers maintain staffs just to certify and analyze the content of each model and provide information for government-mandated labels.

Still, the required labels found on new cars and trucks that are meant to detail "domestic content" don't provide a full picture.

How We Got Here
The domestic content labels were mandated after the U.S. Congress, at the urging of the United Auto Workers union and Detroit's Big Three, passed the American Automobile Labeling Act (AALA) of 1992.

It required automakers to formulate and post on every new model the origin of the vehicle's parts and the vehicle's assembly site.

The AALA took effect with vehicles manufactured after Oct. 1, 1994.

But auto industry trends have sort of swamped the intent of the law. For one thing, the auto industry has been consolidating, with larger automakers buying into or buying altogether other car companies.

For example, Chrysler vehicles today are products of Germany-based DaimlerChrysler, and Ford Motor Co.'s portfolio of vehicles includes English-built Jaguars and Land Rovers as well as Swedish-built Volvos.

Also, foreign-based carmakers such as Honda, Toyota, Nissan, BMW and Mercedes-Benz have opened factories in the United States and build both vehicles and parts; such as engines;on U.S. soil.

Add in the nonstop pressure on automakers to source parts globally as inexpensively and as efficiently as possible, and you can begin to see the complications inherent in any domestic content labeling.

In addition, the domestic content requirement, as it now stands, mixes U.S. and Canadian parts into a single percentage, so there's no real way to know the U.S.-only content.

And even this percentage doesn't take into account where the vehicle is ultimately assembled. This information is available on another line in the domestic content label.

Examples Easy to Find
So you think that Volkswagen's New Beetle is a fun reincarnation of the old Beetles of the '60s and '70s?

The styling may be derived from the old cars, but production is strictly modern.

While the original Beetles for U.S. customers came from Germany, every one of the New Beetles for U.S. customers today is built in Mexico. And the New Beetle's 5-speed manual transmission comes from Argentina.

Volkswagen of America spokesman Tony Fouladpour said he has heard anecdotally of some New Beetle buyers being concerned about the car's assembly in Mexico.

"I think dealers are good at dealing with it, telling people we have been producing these vehicles in Mexico (for the Mexican market) since the 1960s," he said. "And the quality there is comparable to what we have in our plants in Germany."

Also built in Mexico is Chrysler's , whose looks harken back to the American gangster cars of the 1920s and '30s.

In fact, the Toyota Avalon has more domestic content than a Chrysler's PT Cruiser; 70 percent vs. the Chrysler's PT Cruiser's 61 percent. The Avalon is built at a factory in Kentucky.

Not Part of Most Buying Decisions
Auto analysts say most car shoppers don't use content information to decide which model to buy.

"Consumer research indicates that for a lot of people [the Buy American issue] really doesn't come up," said George Peterson, president of the automotive research firm, AutoPacific Inc. of Tustin, Calif. "They buy what they want to buy."

Peterson noted it's especially true of younger buyers who don't have the same strong feelings about buying American as do older buyers.

"They're more open," he said, adding that many young people are employed in services, rather than in manufacturing. "As a result, they're not tied to the union jobs of old and don't have the same sensitivities as did earlier generations," Peterson said.

Dan Bonawitz, vice president of corporate planning and logistics at American Honda, also has seen little evidence that the labels impact sales. "Our experience is people don't even pay attention to it," he said.

In fact, an evaluation by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in calendar 2001 found just 5 percent of the 645 people surveyed about the domestic content labels said they were influenced by the label to any degree whatsoever.

Even among consumers who described themselves as Buy American advocates, just 20 percent said they knew of the so-called content labels and only 9 percent had read one at a dealership, according to NHTSA.

No Push to Remove Labels
Still, no one seems hell-bent on getting rid of the labels. "That's not even on our radar screens, it's not on our lobbying agenda," said Ellen Dickson, who's the policy public affairs person at Ford Motor Co.

Heidi Blumenthal, director of the legislative affairs for the American International Automobile Dealers Association which represents 5,000 dealers, said while gathering the content information can be costly, it's not a front-burner issue in the auto industry right now.

She said consumers don't care about content anymore because they have seen in recent years how the auto industry has become global.

People are buying international cars now, Blumenthal said, adding "they want to buy the best."

Ann Job is a writer for T&A Ink.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: auto; content; domestic; export; generalmotors; import; manufacturing
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I am Willie Green's evil twin brother.
1 posted on 07/26/2003 7:54:23 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Willie Green
Do you want to claim him as a sibling?
2 posted on 07/26/2003 7:58:36 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: 1rudeboy
Now I drive an American car. Real Detroit steel.
3 posted on 07/26/2003 8:02:00 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: 1rudeboy
Toyota's already in the NASCAR truck series, soon to enter the NEXTEL CUP cars.

Honda can't be that far behind!
4 posted on 07/26/2003 8:03:26 PM PDT by spoiler2
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To: 1rudeboy
Well, the MTA subway car I was in today was made in Canada!
5 posted on 07/26/2003 8:10:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Clemenza
Do you want to claim him as a sibling?

Nah, I already have 3 brothers,
I don't think Ma can handle any more.
But another sister may help balance things out a little.

6 posted on 07/26/2003 8:28:47 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: farmfriend
I drive a Mexican truck (4wd Dodge Ram)

Other than my Porsches, though, my other cars are all american

All V8 Fords & Dodges, '73 & earlier

(Hey, at least you can work on them)

7 posted on 07/26/2003 8:29:05 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Clemenza
I think they all are - Bombardier makes 90% of them (and 1/3 of the new rail cars)
8 posted on 07/26/2003 8:31:18 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Ford Fairlane
I drive a 73 Lincoln Continental Mark IV. Custom paint and custom wheels. It's pimp.
9 posted on 07/26/2003 8:33:26 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
I'm currently trying to buy an original '69 Mercury Marauder X100 429 - it's in an estate, negotiating with the whole family is a bitch
10 posted on 07/26/2003 8:36:48 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: 1rudeboy
Defining an American Car

Been there, done that.

1967 Ford Mustang, fastback, red paint, 289 V8.

Ford ahould start building modern replicas.
They'd be so flooded with orders, they wouldn't have time to figure out what to
do with the excess profits.

And after the current reborn Thunderbird fiasco, this time they can do it right.
11 posted on 07/26/2003 8:38:51 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Ford Fairlane
My dad has a Nash Metropolitan.
12 posted on 07/26/2003 8:39:34 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: 1rudeboy
Ford Crown Victoria and a Chevy 1/2 ton here.
13 posted on 07/26/2003 8:50:22 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: 1rudeboy
I'm still amazed how many Jews drive Mercedes.

I would still be pissed.

14 posted on 07/26/2003 8:58:14 PM PDT by demsux
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To: farmfriend
cool
16 posted on 07/26/2003 9:28:48 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: herby k
thanks for the graphic...just beautiful, although that 1967 fastback is my idiosyncratic
favorite...maybe it was those sets of louvers on the rear part of the roofline...

Oh, if forgot to mention one of my guilty pleasures...in case others haven't found it yet:

http://www.mustangsmustangs.com

a website dedicated to pure machine lust -- for the Mustang, the car and for
the Mustang, the plane.
17 posted on 07/26/2003 11:57:23 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Ford Fairlane
Yes but I think they are put together in Rochester NY, that was part of the deal. We get the benefit af having them built by poorly trained upstaters so we can repair them over-and-over before they go into service (New York creating jobs again).
18 posted on 07/27/2003 5:05:13 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: 1rudeboy
American car:

built by Ford or GM, majority domestic content, designed & assembled in US, Canada or maybe mexico. generally under-rated, good quality and with excellent operating costs.

Foreign car

built by mfr. other than GM or Ford, can be designed, manufactured or assembled here & it's still foreign. usually highly over-rated, high initial and operating costs.

Giving up our domestic auto industry is one of my biggest gripes. it really bugs me that so many people think they're too good to buy products made here by their family, friends and neighbors. it also bugs me that foreign car buyers always act like they're superior to those of us (the majority of car buyers) that patronize american manufacturers.

You expect that attitude from european car drivers... they're generally snobs and european cars are just loaded with snob appeal (most of the sticker price of the average euro car is for snob appeal). But increasingly, jap car owners are starting to act like the euro-snobs, especially honda drivers.

That gets a chuckle from me because, from personal experience, hondas are perhaps the most over-rated car there is. I don't know a single honda owner that has had less trouble in the first couple of months with their new honda than I've had in 8 years out of my "new" Ford.

19 posted on 07/27/2003 5:43:28 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: Ford Fairlane
All V8 Fords & Dodges, '73 & earlier.

Allright, cough it up. Whatcha got?

'69 Roadrunner convertible and a '51 Studebaker here.

20 posted on 07/27/2003 7:30:35 AM PDT by uglybiker (Death Before Decaf!)
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