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Tony Martin is 'going to get it', warns cousin of the boy he shot -
The Sunday Telegraph - UK ^ | July 27, 2003 | Thair Shaikh and Daniel Foggo

Posted on 07/26/2003 6:06:33 PM PDT by UnklGene

Tony Martin is 'going to get it', warns cousin of the boy he shot By Thair Shaikh and Daniel Foggo (Filed: 27/07/2003)

Relatives of Fred Barras, the burglar shot dead by Tony Martin, last night warned that the Norfolk farmer will be murdered after his release tomorrow.

One cousin of Barras said Martin was "going to get it", while another said a hitman would be hired if the dead teenager's associates failed to carry out a retaliatory attack.

Fred Barras The death threats will add to fears about Martin's safety, which have already prompted police to set up a mobile station at his farm at Emneth Hungate, Norfolk.

The Telegraph can also reveal that Martin, who was moved to a safe house last week, made arrangements for a gun to be hidden at a friend's home. The weapon, which was concealed under a wardrobe in Martin's farmhouse prior to his conviction for murder in 2000, was smuggled out by his friend, Paul Cumby. Mr Cumby said last night that he still had Martin's gun, saying: "I've got that."

In a separate development, David Blunkett, the Home Secretary, has ordered the head of the Prison Service to explain the early release of Brendon Fearon, Barras's accomplice during the burglary of Martin's home in August 1999. Yesterday, Jamie Jones, a News of The World photographer, was assaulted by Fearon's brother in Newark, Notts.

Fearon, who was shot and wounded by Martin, was freed on Friday, despite serving less than a third of an 18-month sentence for heroin dealing, prompting an outcry from MPs and Martin's supporters.

Ishmael Steele, Barras's cousin, who lives on the same road in Newark where Barras grew up, said Martin would be killed. "He will get it. Something will happen to him, it's got to.

"We've got hundreds of relations who aren't happy with it. And to those who say it's just talk, I'd say wait and see. The detectives can't be with him all the time, can they?"

Another cousin of Barras, who gave his name as Georgi, said the travelling community had recently put a £60,000 bounty on Martin's head.

"He is a dead man. I don't know if it will be a traveller that will do it, but it will be a proper hitman, a professional job," he said.

Martin was jailed for life at Norwich Crown Court three years ago for killing Barras, 16. His life sentence and murder conviction were overturned on appeal and reduced to a five-year term for manslaughter. On Thursday, Martin, who was held at Highpoint Prison in Suffolk, was moved to a safe house. He is expected to remain in hiding in the days following his release, but has told friends that he then intends to return to his home.

The freeing of Fearon, 33, only three days before Martin's release, prompted an outcry yesterday with Henry Bellingham, the Norfolk farmer's MP, claiming that ministers and the prison service were pursuing a vendetta against his constituent. "This was either a coincidence, in which case it was grossly negligent and deeply insensitive, or someone, somewhere has acted out of spite." The Government responded by ordering Phil Wheatley, the head of the Prison Service, to a meeting with Mr Blunkett tomorrow to explain Fearon's release.

Dominic Grieve, the shadow prisons minister, accused Mr Blunkett of rank hypocrisy. "Fearon's release is a direct consequence of policies initiated by Mr Blunkett. The ordering of this report shows how the Home Secretary's actions are driven by a desire for the short-term media limelight. He is not in control."


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To: UnklGene
Something is wrong with their system when people are making threats like this in major publications. I can't picture that happening in this country.
21 posted on 07/26/2003 7:05:43 PM PDT by squidly
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To: M Kehoe
Get a gun and go to jail. Don't get a gun, and die. Bummer

Yeah. If nothing else the British government should realize that if Mr. Martin goes, there goes a taxpayer. Heaven know, the liquor tax is the only tax those other characters paid.

22 posted on 07/26/2003 7:08:51 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: joesnuffy
while Prince Charlie of Rifkin -soon to be king

Frankly, I would be surprised if Charles ever does become king. His grandmother lived into her 100s, and his mother 70+ shows no signs of stopping. The way this is going, if he does become king chances are he will be in his 70s. IMHO, the crown will go to his son William who will be in his late 30's or 40's.

Not that it makes any difference. Being "King of England" today is worth about as much as a bowl of day old oatmeal.

23 posted on 07/26/2003 7:17:37 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: UnklGene
Another cousin of Barras, who gave his name as Georgi, said the travelling community had recently put a £60,000 bounty on Martin's head................


Hmmmmmm.... First I've heard that these criminal scum are Gypsies. That the thief shot dead is a gypsy. Now it makes a lot more sense.
24 posted on 07/26/2003 7:20:24 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: watchin
Ishmael Steele, Barras's cousin ...

Could be. It would explain the bloodlust.
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Lex talionis: The law of revenge. The way of life for Muslim Albanians and UK Travelers (Gypsies) too it would appear.
25 posted on 07/26/2003 7:23:33 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: joesnuffy
Maybe we need to extend the blessings of liberty to UK itself!?

Bush could do this you know.

26 posted on 07/26/2003 7:38:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dennisw
You need to read "King of the Gypsies". It is set in the U.S. but the vendetta is a major part of their heritage.
Just as an aside: The word Gypsie or Gypsy or other variants comes from the ancient association with Egypt. They also called themselves Romany, which was the name of a tribe of people in the Balkans. Apparently there was no actual connection. Vlad the Impaler murdered thousands of Bulgars, Magyars, and Gypsies. during WWII the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews, 1 million catholics, 3 million Poles, 300,000 "defectives", and 800,000 gypsies. The Travellers are the remnants of the gypsies from europe.
A lot of gypsies in europe had/have arab/muslim sounding names. Their religious convictions are pretty nebulous but center around some sort of pantheism, as I recall.
27 posted on 07/26/2003 7:47:49 PM PDT by AIRFORCE76 ("from my cold dead fingers..")
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To: AIRFORCE76
All the different groups that travel from one place to another are called Travelers whether they are Roma or not.

The Roma descend from one or more groups that came from India circa 1300/1400.

The Irish Travelers may well have no blood affinity with the Roma.

The Roma, and other Travelers, are frequently visited with quite vicious, and even deadly, persecution by Europeans.

Dr. Joseph Mengele kept at his side a young Gypsy boy throughout the war. This kid got everything you could wish, and he always wore a really nice white suit. It was kept spotless.

One day Joseph heard the allies were near, so they started driving all the Jews and other Gypsies to the gas chambers and ovens as fast as they could.

Everyone in the camps wanted to know what would happen to the little Gypsy boy. Would Joseph Mengele toss him into the gas chamber, or protect him, or what.

At long last the Allies were so near you could hear the engines of their tanks, and light rifle fire. Joseph came to get his little Gypsy boy. He took him straight away to the furnaces and tossed him in alive.

28 posted on 07/26/2003 7:58:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Great post .... thanx
29 posted on 07/26/2003 8:08:32 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: UnklGene
It's deeply saddening to see what is happening in the UK. When a statement like this is tolerated:

"He is a dead man. I don't know if it will be a traveller that will do it, but it will be a proper hitman, a professional job."

Of all the countries I have ever visited or lived in, I believe the UK is the one that has been most unsafe.

Those who make the laws are hardly affected by crime. They live in upper-class neigbourhoods, where they can give free reign to their guilt-complexes about how burglars, rapists and murderers are the product of being 'socially excluded'. The people who are most affected by crime are decent working class people (who come from the same backgrounds as the sociopaths who prey on society, but decide to get on with their lives as best they can). I don't find it surprising that a majority of British people believes in reinstating the death penalty for murder, and yet the British state will never consider this.

30 posted on 07/26/2003 8:32:06 PM PDT by orbital
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To: UnklGene
Reading this article, one would never know that prior to killing the "victim" Mr. Martin was a law-abiding man who had the misfortune of being robbed and responding to such an overture by rewarding the robber a short lesson in ballistics.

What are we Americans supposed to make of this characterization: "said the travelling community "?

31 posted on 07/26/2003 8:45:02 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: yankeedame
Only if you have it bronzed.
32 posted on 07/26/2003 8:47:32 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: joesnuffy
Charlie will not be king, without some major maneuvering
33 posted on 07/26/2003 10:04:15 PM PDT by wafflehouse (the hell you say!)
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To: UnklGene
If it was me with all the Barras making threats against me & mine, methinks the morgue would be busy preping up the Barras clan's remains.

If the cops do nothing, Martin is justified in taking them out in self defense.

To hell with the courts, put some travelers to traveling with a one way ticket to hell.
34 posted on 07/26/2003 10:04:36 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Britton J Wingfield
bump
35 posted on 07/26/2003 10:20:29 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: watchin
Britons should free Tony Martin and take back their country!
36 posted on 07/26/2003 11:04:18 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Lancey Howard
Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiner
37 posted on 07/27/2003 1:40:11 AM PDT by ambrose
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To: AIRFORCE76
You need to read "King of the Gypsies". It is set in the U.S. but the vendetta is a major part of their heritage...........


How soon I forget. And so true about their "sacred doctrine" of the vendetta
38 posted on 07/27/2003 5:11:48 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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