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Robbery suspect shot dead in Berkeley
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Saturday, July 26, 2003 | Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer

Posted on 07/26/2003 2:39:46 PM PDT by Reeses

Berkeley and Oakland police shot and killed a bank robbery suspect Friday in a confrontation near the UC Berkeley campus and across from a center where preschool children were playing.

Witnesses described a chaotic scene that erupted at 11 a.m. on the 2200 block of Haste Street after officers spent an hour searching for a man who police said had robbed a Wells Fargo bank at College and Ashby avenues and fled with an undisclosed amount of cash.

"There were like six or seven shots. I heard police saying, 'Don't move, don't move, police' and then 'bop, bop, bop,' " said Charles Elazier, 26, who lives near where the shooting occurred. "I got behind the truck," he said, motioning toward a white vehicle cordoned off with yellow police tape.

The unidentified suspect was pronounced dead at Highland Hospital in Oakland. Police sources said the man had been a suspect in a series of takeover robberies in Oakland and San Francisco.

The man was shot by Berkeley police Sgt. Craig Juster, 45, and Oakland police Officers Shawn Knight and Dave Burke after the suspect brandished a gun at them behind a home near Haste and Ellsworth streets, between bustling Shattuck and Telegraph avenues, police sources said.

The shooting happened just three blocks south of the UC Berkeley campus in a residential area mostly populated by college students and across from the Harold E. Jones Child Study Center, a university research center that studies preschool-age children.

Minutes after the shooting, children played within the fenced compound as a host of FBI agents and Berkeley and Oakland police officials surveyed the scene. Evidence from the bank robbery was found on Haste Street, police said.

The drama began just after 10 a.m., when a man robbed the bank in Berkeley's Elmwood district after holding a gun to the head of a female teller, police said.

Berkeley police put out a description and soon tracked the man to Haste Street. They were joined by Oakland police officers who heard the broadcast. Officers were conducting a building-to-building search when Berkeley police Lt. Dan Lee said into his radio, "Challenging one," meaning officers had a suspect at gunpoint.

Moments later, Lee yelled, "Shots fired."

Shawn Sridhar, 21, a UC Berkeley student, was trying to get to his home on nearby Dwight Way and was being escorted by officers when shots rang out. The officers abandoned Sridhar, drew their weapons and took cover behind their cars, he said.

"They didn't pull me (to safety)," Sridhar said, smiling. "They didn't seem to be worried about me; they seemed more worried about themselves. I was kind of surprised."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: berkeley; oakland; policeprotection
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No one told Sridhar that the police have no legal obligation to protect anyone but themselves. Berkelites are always shocked when leftist dogma meets reality.

This story was also on the TV news. They didn't show the suspect as it was not a white male Republican. But they did show his Nike's, pointing up.

1 posted on 07/26/2003 2:39:46 PM PDT by Reeses
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"They didn't pull me (to safety)," Sridhar said, smiling. "They didn't seem to be worried about me; they seemed more worried about themselves. I was kind of surprised."

This 21-year-old UC Berkeley student was well aware that shots were fired and he saw his two police escorts take cover. His account implies that he didn't have the minimal intelligence required to know there was danger and take cover himself. I doubt this is what happened. I think he took cover and then gave a negative account to the media to create the impression that Berkeley cops are uncaring cretins.

2 posted on 07/26/2003 3:00:01 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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Berkelites are always shocked when leftist dogma meets reality.

Actually, the police probably acted exactly as he would guess. Remember, anarcho-leftist dogma holds that police are "pigs." It's only the socialists that think authority is wonderful.

3 posted on 07/26/2003 3:05:39 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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The officers abandoned Sridhar, drew their weapons and took cover behind their cars, he said.

Well, he said it, so I guess that settles it.

4 posted on 07/26/2003 4:01:12 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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The unidentified suspect was pronounced dead at Highland Hospital in Oakland. Police sources said the man had been a suspect in a series of takeover robberies in Oakland and San Francisco.

In Berzerkley terminology, this means that he was a helpless, defenseless victim of a cruel corporatist society. And he was just trying to raise enough money to feed himself. If the economy was better, this guy would have had a steady job. So it was all Bush's fault /berzerkley

5 posted on 07/26/2003 4:04:40 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rob: "I see a five letter word. F-R-E-E-P. Freep." Jerry: "Freep? What's that?" - Dick Van Dyke Show)
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"They didn't pull me (to safety)," Sridhar said, smiling. "They didn't seem to be worried about me; they seemed more worried about themselves. I was kind of surprised."

Gets his knowledge of proper police procedures from movies and television.

6 posted on 07/26/2003 4:06:23 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rob: "I see a five letter word. F-R-E-E-P. Freep." Jerry: "Freep? What's that?" - Dick Van Dyke Show)
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To: Reeses
Hope he didnt use one of Sean Penn's (carelessly left for easy theft) handguns
7 posted on 07/26/2003 4:08:55 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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"They didn't pull me (to safety)," Sridhar said, smiling. "They didn't seem to be
worried about me; they seemed more worried about themselves.
I was kind of surprised."


I just love liberal virgins!
As I try to tell my friends/family that like gun control:
"I'll miss you, but don't worry.
When the cops arrive 4 minutes late to save you from the murderer you could have
shot, I'll tell them not to worry because you must have died happy and true to your
own convictions. Seeing how much you hated guns."
8 posted on 07/26/2003 4:18:22 PM PDT by VOA
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"They didn't pull me (to safety)," Sridhar said, smiling. "They didn't seem to be worried about me; they seemed more worried about themselves. I was kind of surprised."

Who in their right mind would pull a Berkley liberal out of the line of fire? It's simply a case of good conservative cop training!

9 posted on 07/26/2003 4:26:48 PM PDT by pke
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To: pke

10 posted on 07/26/2003 8:24:25 PM PDT by Reeses
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No one told Sridhar that the police have no legal obligation to protect anyone but themselves.

Say what?

11 posted on 07/26/2003 8:28:03 PM PDT by breakem
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The cop is in for a real treat (said in sarcastic tone) - the Police Review Commission. I was on the commission for a while a number of years ago and the crap that cops are put through is unbelievable.
12 posted on 07/26/2003 8:33:09 PM PDT by berkeleybeej
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Try and sue a cop, or the Federal, state, county, municipality, tribe or force he works for. SURPRIZE! He can stand there, with no legal liability, and watch you get shot dead, drown or burn to death, and he doesn't have to so much as pee on the flames or throw you a straw to cling to...
13 posted on 07/26/2003 9:52:57 PM PDT by jonascord (To Orlando Wilson, with contempt)
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You obviously been traumatized by some idiot judge.

We have the CHP now claiming they don't have to call for assistance when an injured motorist is laying on the side of the road. One or two more examples of this and Davis' recall will be just the beginning.

14 posted on 07/26/2003 9:55:06 PM PDT by breakem
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In a way he is right. The first thing a cop should do is protect themselves, then their fellow officers. Civilians come after that. A cop can't defend anything if they are killed or severely injured.
15 posted on 07/26/2003 10:09:45 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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That's not what he said. He didn't say anything defining the situation you described. Read 13 again.
16 posted on 07/26/2003 10:19:08 PM PDT by breakem
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He MAY help, he cannot be sued for NOT helping. There is no Legal recourse by a civilian, (I love that, as if CIVILIANS are some lower form of life, somewhere between fellow officers and mice, but below K-9s and Feds) for a failure to perform. And you wonder why I think LEOs are thugs and highway robbers with guns.

Spin me again how $200,000 worth of traffic tickets, issued on a single 35 MPH 1000 foot stretch of highway, "saved lives"...

17 posted on 07/26/2003 10:59:05 PM PDT by jonascord (To Orlando Wilson, with contempt)
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Don't know what your second paragraph means. Not related to anything I said

Two cops walk out of a Cafe. Your on the ground with a guy on top of you and another one kicking you. You can sue the cops if they walk away.

There are defenses, another more serious call, a hostage situation back in the cafe, a solar eclipse, but if they don't have a more serious duty, you've got them for failure to perform their duties.

I sat on the peace officer standards and training committee which did the training standards for our state. If I had a couple of departmental manuals, I'd cite you code and verse. We have a tendency on the ole FR of seeing court cases, applying them to the whole world, and then yelling the sky is falling.

18 posted on 07/26/2003 11:03:41 PM PDT by breakem
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Now taking bets on the possibility of Sridhar suing the Berkeley PD for mental distress (or something).

Current odds are 4-1 against, even money for.

19 posted on 07/26/2003 11:07:35 PM PDT by squidly
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was Dirty Harry in on this one? I am all broken up about that college student. Maybe he will grow a penis some day.
20 posted on 07/27/2003 12:15:18 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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