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What Money Buys In U.S. - Civility
The Toronto Star ^ | 7-25-03 | Jason Brooks

Posted on 07/26/2003 12:08:34 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy

Health care in Ontario is free, but so is eating lunch from a trashcan. So last week I flew to Baltimore to see an eye specialist. I did this to avoid a two-month wait in Toronto, the indignity of being treated like a head of cattle at Toronto Western, and health-care workers that are Canada's best answer to an authoritarian regime.

My U.S. medical bill was $1,000 U.S., a price I'm happy to pay just to avoid being sworn at by Toronto nurses.

Whether the care I received in the United States was medically better, I cannot judge. But I did buy something you can't buy here: Civility.

In Wednesday's Star, Joe Fiorito recounted his experience renewing his Ontario health card: a senseless bureaucracy making him shuffle about the city; rude bureaucrats; stupid rules.

His story rings uncomfortably true. Health-care workers I've met in Toronto don't care.

Three months ago, while I lay in bed reading Kenneth Pollack's The Threatening Storm, I noticed a blind spot in my left eye, a little down and right from the centre of my vision. The letters on the page weren't there. Just white space.

For most people, this would be concerning; I was terrified. An accident had severely impaired the vision in my other eye when I was 6.

Although my problem wasn't an emergency, I needed to see a retinal specialist.

This is a doctor who specializes in the photo-receptor-packed "screen" at the back of your eye that images are projected onto.

Part of my retina was apparently not working.

The wait in Toronto was two weeks for me — so short because I went to the hospital, bypassed security and begged for an appointment.

On appointment day, I waited two hours in a room crowded with dozens of patients. My stomach churned.

I overheard an agitated nurse trying to convince someone that I shouldn't be seen. She remembered I hadn't gone through proper channels when I made my appointment the week before.

Then they called my name.

I moved to a jam-packed room where I sat shoulder to shoulder with three other patients. The on-deck circle. I started to sweat. Nurses snapped at patients at a reception desk three feet away. A man with a health card was ordered to the other side of the hospital because he didn't also have a "hospital card."

Then, I was in.

"Ignore it," the doctor said. "Easy case." He saw me for five minutes, looked in my eye with a light and couldn't see a problem.

In the weeks after, the blind spot seemed to get worse.

Every doorframe, computer cord, chart, had a blank spot. I couldn't concentrate at work.

"We're going on vacation, you'll have to call back in August," I was told when I tried to get a second opinion. "There's nothing I can do, there's a lot of other people waiting," another receptionist told me.

It takes one day to get an appointment at the best eye hospital in the United States. I went.

My first indication that Johns Hopkins was different came on the phone. Receptionists were friendly, cheerful and helpful. The answering system has an option where you can speak to an ophthalmologist by phone. In Toronto this would be like phoning a major bank and discovering that by pressing 1 you could chat with the bank president about your service charges. I laughed out loud.

When I arrived at the hospital — and, as Dave Barry would say, I am not making this up — they offered me a cup of tea. My "co-ordinator" escorted me through quiet atriums that could pass for a Howard Johnson lobby. People smiled and said "thank you." The waiting room was so empty (five people in a room that could seat 50) I wondered if my plane had crashed and this was health-care heaven. Where were the huddled masses? In the four hours I was there, three doctors saw me for more than an hour-and-a-half, all told.

The specialist thought about my problem, suggested causes and in the end guessed it wasn't serious and that it would heal itself. As to the cause, he could find no answer. But he had thought about it. He had cared.

In Toronto, hospitals don't need us. They're too busy already. Canadian laws make it illegal to buy our way out of an overburdened public system. We can't buy friendly service in Canada.

Our laws will change, someday. For now, the lesson is this: U.S. medical care isn't just for rich people. Who knew you could get such exceptional medical attention for the price of a new suit?

(Jason Brooks is articling at a law firm in Toronto.)


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: canada; healthcare; hillarycare; socializedmedicine; us
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
I got married and my wife is more "established" in her job than I was back in the States....besides, being here in Canada gives me a chance to spread the good news of free enterprise and debunk this "free health care" tripe these Canadians are so "proud of" up here

I can understand how one's personal affairs might give rise to living in a different country.
But I'd think long and hard before renouncing my American citizenship and swearing allegience to a foreign nation. Citizenship is not a trivial right or commitment.

41 posted on 07/27/2003 1:48:13 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: I_dmc
Not sure....like I said earlier, I've only been here two months....
42 posted on 07/27/2003 1:52:14 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (transplanted St Louisan living in Canada, eh!)
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To: AppyPappy
Yep, a "missionary"....here to spread the Good News of Conservatism to our "wayward" neighbors to the North :-)
43 posted on 07/27/2003 1:53:23 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (transplanted St Louisan living in Canada, eh!)
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To: Polybius
How true --- the difference is like night and day....my wife recently twisted her ankle -- and we were shuffled around to at LEAST three different offices....where we waited at LEAST 30 minutes in each place....it was a REAL eye-opener for me....
44 posted on 07/27/2003 1:56:32 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (transplanted St Louisan living in Canada, eh!)
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To: VOA
I understand all the "risks" of becoming a Canadian citizen, but, in the end, I will have DUAL American/Canadian citizenship after all my application papers are processed. Since I was born in the good ole' US I consider myself an AMERICAN first, Canadian second.
45 posted on 07/27/2003 1:59:09 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (transplanted St Louisan living in Canada, eh!)
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To: Old Professer
Hehehehe....very good....good description of yourself/family on your profile....
46 posted on 07/27/2003 2:00:24 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (transplanted St Louisan living in Canada, eh!)
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To: Willie Green
I don't intend on renouncing my American citizenship....will have both American/Canadian citizenship....
47 posted on 07/27/2003 2:01:30 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (transplanted St Louisan living in Canada, eh!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
What if this had been a serious problem?

The first diagnosis was the same as the second. Should he have searched for a third? Certainly he has a right to be concerned about his eyesight , and he's entitled to do as he pleases.

As for life expectancy, my point was in reference to the quality of the medical system in place in Canada , not the racial composition of the people who use it. It's no better, or worse, than the US system. Both have problems.

I referenced the CIA World Fact book. It's on line.

Canada , Infant mortality rate: 4.95 deaths/1,000 live births (2002 est.) Life expectancy at birth: total population: 79.69 years , male: 76.3 years , female: 83.25 years (2002 est.)

USA .Infant mortality rate: 6.69 deaths/1,000 live births (2002 est) , Life expectancy at birth: total population: 77.4 years , male: 74.5 years , female: 80.2 years (2002 est.)

48 posted on 07/27/2003 2:42:55 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
"Since I was born in the good ole' US I consider myself an AMERICAN first, Canadian second."

Imagine what you would think about a Canadian who came down here and said: "Since I was born in good ole' CANADA I consider myself a CANADIAN first, American second.

You'd want to flip him the bird and send him packing - so, how are you different?

49 posted on 07/27/2003 3:21:32 PM PDT by Dr. Luv
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To: Snowyman
Once again, different races have different mortality rates. Compare apples to apples.
50 posted on 07/27/2003 4:07:32 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Temple Owl
ping
51 posted on 07/27/2003 4:09:52 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
different races have different mortality rates

Do they? The CIA didn't think it important, neither do I , although they do list race %'s in their Factbook . Perhaps you could explain it , the apples to apples thing.

52 posted on 07/27/2003 4:47:40 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Snowyman
The CIA didn't think it is important? They weren't discussing which country has better medical care either. What do you need explained? Black people do not live as long. Neither do Southerners. A lot has to do with diet. If you want to compare Canada health care to the U.S., break the morality rates down by race.
53 posted on 07/27/2003 6:27:49 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
I understand all the "risks" of becoming a Canadian citizen, but, in the end,
I will have DUAL American/Canadian citizenship after all my application papers
are processed


Howdy ConservativeStLouisGuy,
Thanks for taking my comment so kindly.
I was just passing along some of the experiences I've had as a modestly-worldly Okie
with a cluster of Canadian/American relatives.

If you have dual residency with all your paper-work, that sounds pretty good.

Good luck with everything...and good luck with spreading the gospel of free-markets and
financial reality to the Canadians east of Alberta!
54 posted on 07/27/2003 6:31:41 PM PDT by VOA
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
They weren't discussing which country has better medical care either

Neither was I. I said Canadian health care was no better or worse. Both have problems . Life expectancy and birth mortality in Canada are better than in the US . And health care plays a major role in that . It's not the only reason, but it's a major one. Like it or not , that's the way it is

Canadian diets can be just as destructive as American . And population demographics of the US and Canada are not identical but they are similar. Canada has a black population . And a American Indian one . Apples equal apples.

55 posted on 07/27/2003 9:03:25 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Dr. Luv
The difference with me is that I WAS born an American, I thank God EVERYDAY that I was and am SO PROUD of that fact. Nary a time goes by that I don't well up with tears when I hear our National Anthemn being played/sung at sporting events/etc. I suppose that if I was born in Canada I'd feel the same pride I'd feel as if I had been born in the US, but, like I said, I THANK GOD I was born in the USA.
56 posted on 07/28/2003 3:45:06 AM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (transplanted St Louisan living in Canada, eh!)
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To: Snowyman
And population demographics of the US and Canada are not identical but they are similar. Canada has a black population . And a American Indian one . Apples equal apples.

Canadian blacks: 2% American blacks: 13%

57 posted on 07/28/2003 4:11:20 AM PDT by palmer (paid for by the "Lazamataz for Supreme Ruler" campaign.)
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
You clearly missed my point - which was how do you think Canadians might feel about someone who claims to want citizenship (you) yet clearly feels no allegiance or love to their country?

I'll tell you, if a Canadian came down here with your attitude up there, I'd personally kick their rear all the way back to Moosejaw.

58 posted on 07/28/2003 4:31:21 AM PDT by Dr. Luv
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
But, he got the same opinion from the Canadian doctor without having to pay anything....eh?
59 posted on 07/28/2003 4:47:44 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
Truth be told, if you were born Candian, and flaunted your "Candian first, USA second" attitude here in Texas no telling what would happen to you.
60 posted on 07/28/2003 5:04:42 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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