White House Skeptical Recall Would Be a Gift

NY Times ^ | 7/25/03 | Adam Nagourney

[NormsRevenge]

Ping

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Good Evening Norm!!!

calgov2002:

calgov2002: for old calgov2002 articles. 

calgov2002: for new calgov2002 articles. 

Other Bump Lists at: Free Republic Bump List Register

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Check the list.

John Jorsett has put up some interesting stuff!

[jmaroneps37]

California is such a mess that nothing could make it worse for us.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Of course Karl Rove would like nothing more than to run campaigns for GW and a challenger to Boxer in a California run by Davis, with the state still roiling in fiscal problems.

That's all well and good for them. But we who live here need a solution to the multitude of problems caused by Davis' and the dims fiscal mismanagement IMMEDIATELY. It is OUR livelihoods -- and the wealth created by DECADES of hard work -- that are at stake NOW.

We WILL NOT sacrifice our fortunes for something as maudlin as a second GW Bush term or to obtain a net gain of another Republican in the senate. There are California problems at stake that must be solved by Californians.

Having said that, I will also say that GW's profligate spending (abeted by a Republican controlled House and Senate) is both outrageous and disgraceful. Rove would have us agree to sacrifice our livelihoods FOR THIS?

I for one in California suggest that it would be much more helpful to California if the Federal government would meet one of its primary duties and stop the flood of illegal migrans, which is causing tremendous harm to this state. After Rove and Bush have handled that, they can contact me for support in 2004.

Venting. :O)

[gcruse]

This is exactly what I said here last week.
And boy, did the approbation rain down. Leave
the democrats twisting in the California wind.
Then take over next election with a GOP governor
and possibly better aligned assembly.

[templar]

California is such a mess that nothing could make it worse for us.

Of all of the parties involved, on all of the various sides, and in all of the many backrooms where the real decisons are made ... does anyone actually care about what happens to the people of California? Seems like just another big boy power game to me.

[NormsRevenge]

Yup.. saw them.. lots of stuff popping up all over!

Have you seen Willie Brown announce yet? He may be the dark horse in the race with Feinstein out.

[gcruse]

Did you see the article about the budget most likely to be agreed to? It allows for no tax increases, funding current expenses with longer term bonds, and no cuts in spending.
The California Assembly isn't Grey Davis and wasn't all elected yesterday. Californians are getting the government they voted for, and no quick fix is coming.

[Cicero]

I don't think the recall is a good idea. It's gratifying, certainly. But it raises many problems.

First, the Republicans really don't have a candidate. The party is in disarray and Parsky is an idiot.

Second, Gray Davis has made such a huge mess it will be very painful to fix it. Why should he get all the benefits from making the mess and spending the money, and some hapless Republican get the blame for belt tightening?

Third, the reasons already given. With Gray Davis in office, the Dems would be very unpopular in 2004.

Fourth, the Democrats have enough votes to recall every future Republican governor who is ever elected. And they wouldn't hesitate to do it, saying the whole while that Republicans started it.

Well, too late now.

[templar]

It allows for no tax increases, funding current expenses with longer term bonds, and no cuts in spending.

Brilliance in action.

[gcruse]

And, of course, a bond sale, when your bonds are rated at junk status, is going to be an expensive deal all by itself, that will piggyback on any gains made for the next five years.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

I second your very fine rant :-)

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

This is exactly what I said here last week. And boy, did the approbation rain down

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Good, you deserved it Out-Of-Stater. Perhaps you don't understand why, and feel invigorated by this article, but you're dead wrong. You don't have to live with a booming cost of living, or your boss contemplating moving out of state-which is currently rated 50th in business friendliness. I can literally go on and on, all because Davis, with his 21% approval rating, can go lower at my expense by us twisting in the wind? You can make callous statements like the Bush Admin did in stability in Texas and not have to worry about anything, except some people on FR that challenged you, gee I really feel your pain dealing with the approbation.

Then take over next election with a GOP governor

Since you are so genuinely concerned about my state's peoples' plight, let me belay your fears. That is precisely what is going to happen in the Oct 7th election.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

That's all well and good for them. But we who live here need a solution to the multitude of problems caused by Davis' and the dims fiscal mismanagement IMMEDIATELY. It is OUR livelihoods -- and the wealth created by DECADES of hard work -- that are at stake NOW. We WILL NOT sacrifice our fortunes for something as maudlin as a second GW Bush term or to obtain a net gain of another Republican in the senate. There are California problems at stake that must be solved by Californians.

Exactly. That is yet another thing that I love about the USA. Because we are states, we have a smaller gov relating only to our area's issues. In our "national" media and mindset, we have a society that has far too many fail to understand that since it obviously doesn't directly relate to them, that they need to get the hell out of the way because that can't possibly relate to the weight of the discussion.

[squidly]

Seems like just another big boy power game to me.

That's about the size of it.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

does anyone actually care about what happens to the people of California?

You're not gonna go all Losertarian on us now are you? Just kidding.

Yes. I've heard him speak countless times and I believe there really is one. Tom McClintock. Read this about how he would fix it here. Hell, read the man's state website with all its published articles. The guy works harder and is more informed than any politician I've ever seen since Ronald Wilson Reagan.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Exactly right!

[novacation]

bttt