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Shut Up, Charlie
Washington Dispatch ^ | July 25, 2003 | Cathryn Crawford

Posted on 07/25/2003 6:37:22 AM PDT by Sparta

Poor Uday and Qusay. We all know how persecuted they were, and Charles Rangel, a Democratic (what a surprise!) representative from New York, is genuinely upset by their untimely passing at the hands of U.S. troops. "We have a law on the books that the United States should not be assassinating anybody," he grumbled Tuesday night on Hannity and Colmes. Well, Charlie, thanks so much for living up to your reputation. Charlie didn’t even vote for the resolution that simply supported the troops in Iraq. My question is, what is Charlie still doing holding office when he makes these stupid and unverifiable statements? It’s not a law, Charlie! It’s called an executive order, and it was signed by Gerald Ford. Don’t tell me that Charlie doesn’t know that. Any representative that will go on T.V. and make such an uneducated and unfounded statement deserves to be kicked out of office – if not for sheer stupidity, at least for ineptness. To go past that to the crux of the matter, however – Uday and Qusay were not assassinated, Charlie. They were given chance after chance after chance by the U.S. military to simply surrender and have their lives spared. They were given warnings that if they did not surrender they would be killed, and they chose to ignore these warnings. As a matter of fact, not only did they ignore the warnings, Charlie, they fired on the troops that were attempting to peacefully arrest them! But, for the sake of argument, let’s get Charlie’s perspective straight. According to him, the troops that were coming under direct fire from Uday, Qusay, and their bodyguards were not supposed to return fire. What is Charlie’s alternative? He doesn’t indulge us enough to detail that – I have my suspicions as to why – but let me try to guess. I suppose they could have attempted some sort of negotiation. I can hear the conversation now.

U.S. Commander: “Uday, Qusay, you have 10 minutes to come out of that building with your hands in the air and without any weapons!”

Uday: “Or what?”

U.S. Commander: “Or we’ll sit here till we get a message from Charlie Rangel telling us what to do next!”

I am so sick of listening to people – Democrats in general and Charlie Rangel in specific - gripe and moan and whine about what a crappy job the military is doing in Iraq. I’d love to see some of them over there, in their Armani suits and their fake khaki desert-shirts that they love to wear when they are slumming it in a Middle Eastern country – God knows why, I guess they think it makes them look less like idiots – and I’d love to see what kind of job they would do when faced with the enemy. Do they know, I wonder, how to shoot an M-16? Of course, we don’t want to mess up their manicures. We’d better not force them to do that. I suppose it could be classified as cruelty. Charlie would be a whole lot better off if he simply shut up and stopped making inane comments that only make him look like an idiot. If he really wants to serve this country, he could start by supporting the troops in a way that befits the veteran that he is. He, more than anyone, should be standing up in support of the U.S. military, instead of tearing it down continually as he has done for so long.


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To: Sparta; Cathryn Crawford
It’s not a law, Charlie! It’s called an executive order,
... Don’t tell me that Charlie doesn’t know that.


These executive orders are simply printed in the Federal Register.
 After 30 days, these orders become law and carry the full impact
 of any laws passed by Congress.
41 posted on 07/25/2003 10:01:49 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: da_toolman
uhg- I AM back!... well damn, what the hell do you know!
42 posted on 07/25/2003 10:06:19 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (it's better to die with honor than to live without it.)
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To: Sparta
Well said.
43 posted on 07/25/2003 10:20:34 AM PDT by sandydipper (Never quit - never surrender!)
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To: Sparta
Not surprising, coming from the slime who characterized our military as baby killers and thugs. Yet, he kisses Castro's backside at every opportunity.
44 posted on 07/25/2003 10:32:57 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: phasma proeliator
Great tag line! One day soon we may be called to act on those sentiments.
45 posted on 07/25/2003 11:21:06 AM PDT by attagirl
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To: Sparta
I nearly assasinated my TV the last time this fecal matter Rangel came on and claimed we were targeting Iraqi children in the war. The guy is either insane or stupid, or both.
46 posted on 07/25/2003 11:38:19 AM PDT by hang 'em (mine the borders, bounties on illegals, bulldoze the mosques, deport, deport, deport!)
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To: Noumenon
...Should swing from the end of a rope.

Hey... I gotta a rope!

47 posted on 07/25/2003 11:45:37 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: Sparta
Rangel's rants must be predicated on what his FBI file says. His statements have no basis in fact - they are just ranting.
48 posted on 07/25/2003 12:32:25 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Northern Yankee
Though my editor characterized this article as a rant, I enjoyed writing it.
49 posted on 07/25/2003 2:27:19 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Why don't you think I'm a neocon?)
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To: Okies love Dubya 2
I'll add you. :-)
50 posted on 07/25/2003 2:29:56 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Why don't you think I'm a neocon?)
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To: Scenic Sounds
It could be that Charlie is a Democrat in an area that votes Democrat, no matter what. Even a dumb Democrat is better than a Republican to some people.

As for why people are so incredibly different, there are myriad reasons. Different upbringings, religions, regions, schooling - the list goes on and on.
51 posted on 07/25/2003 2:35:12 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Why don't you think I'm a neocon?)
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To: Amelia
I'm glad you liked it this week. :-)
52 posted on 07/25/2003 2:43:20 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Why don't you think I'm a neocon?)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
As for why people are so incredibly different, there are myriad reasons. Different upbringings, religions, regions, schooling - the list goes on and on.

Do you really think I'm gonna try to take on a Townhall.com columnist?

You're right about everything. As always. ;-)

53 posted on 07/25/2003 3:10:14 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Summertime!)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Thank you very much!
54 posted on 07/25/2003 5:33:40 PM PDT by Okies love Dubya 2
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To: Sparta
rangel, and the other democrats, for that matter would much prefer that American troops rather than Saddam Hussine's cohorts be killed.

I capitalized Saddam's name and did not capital rangel's name nor the democrats because I have more respect for Saddam than I do for either rangel or a democrat.
55 posted on 07/25/2003 5:39:06 PM PDT by sport
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To: gcruse
"After 30 days, these orders become law and carry the full impact of any laws passed by Congress."

Not true.

Executive orders only affect the Executive Branch.

The Supreme Court Case when Truman tried to take over the steel industry clearly said that only Congress can make a law.

56 posted on 07/25/2003 6:05:25 PM PDT by gatex
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To: gcruse
Supreme Court case about Executive Orders---

Youngstown Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579 (1952)

Quote from case --- ".....In the framework of our Constitution, the President's power to see that the laws are faithfully executed refutes the idea that he is to be a lawmaker.

"The Constitution limits his functions in the lawmaking process to the recommending of laws he thinks wise and the vetoing of laws he thinks bad. And the Constitution is neither silent nor equivocal about who shall make laws which the President is to execute. The [343 U.S. 579, 588] first section of the first article says that "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States . . . ." After granting many powers to the Congress, Article I goes on to provide that Congress may "make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof." ...."[bold added"

57 posted on 07/25/2003 6:24:49 PM PDT by gatex
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To: gatex
Executive orders only affect the Executive Branch.

I admit I am no expert on it.  But in the case at hand,
is it not the executive branch that is under discussion,
ie, the defense department.?

58 posted on 07/25/2003 6:51:44 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cathryn Crawford; Scenic Sounds
Serious questions: How is that Rangel has been re-elected to Congress 16 times? Do you think he's stupid?

Charlie's not stupid. He can say these things forever and his constituents will re-elect him. He says these things for effect and is probably the "slickest-sleeziest" Congressman in D.C.. In this life, he's "untouchable."

59 posted on 07/25/2003 6:57:29 PM PDT by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene; Cathryn Crawford
Charlie's not stupid.

I agree, he's certainly not stupid. I was trying earlier to get a discussion going concerning why he's so successful in his congressional district, i.e., what accounts for a constituency that feels he's representing their interests so well. What makes them view the world so differently than most of us do?

60 posted on 07/25/2003 7:06:17 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Summertime!)
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