A Few of FR's Finest....Every Day....07-25-03...Utah - "This is the place"

Mama_Bear

[FreeTheHostages]

Another cow?! LOL! OK, that DOES IT!! ! I'm off to find a photo of a cow in Utah for this thread!!

Yup, re the calendar page: I'm thinking us Christians will have something to say about the *real* point of human existence which might be entirely different from "finding oneself." Well, I suppose on can find oneself on the road to Damascus.

[JustAmy]

Good Morning, One and All.

[FreeTheHostages]

A real Utah news story (from April 2001):

SALT LAKE CITY — Eight activists, including one dressed as a spotted cow, distributed veggie burgers outside federal court yesterday in support of a case that could determine what kind of demonstrations are legal at Utah schools.

A federal judge postponed ruling on the lawsuit brought by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, whose members were threatened with arrest in early 1999 after handing out fliers promoting vegetarianism at a Taylorsville junior high school.

The animal-rights group is suing the Granite School District, claiming its members' free-speech rights were limited.

Between five and 12 PETA members distributed leaflets and carried signs on three consecutive Wednesdays at Eisenhower Junior High School, which flew a McDonald's corporate sponsorship flag and offered free meals to students. PETA claims the fast-food company mistreats animals and promotes an unhealthy diet.

Yesterday, U.S. District Judge Dee Benson asked defense attorney Alain Balmanno what kind of disruption the protesters caused kids in the classroom.

"So they looked outside the (classroom) windows? Is that so bad in this land of the free and home of the brave?" Judge Benson asked.

The lawsuit hinges on a state statute passed in 1973 that allows school administrators to prohibit behavior that disrupts school activities. PETA attorney Brian Barnard said the statute is overly broad and allows schools to silence speech they don't agree with.

"If my clients were picketing about the football team, none of this would have happened," Barnard said.

Benson canceled an April 19 trial date because there is no dispute over the facts of the case. He did not say when he would make a decision on the lawsuit.

[dutchess]

What a great thread today Lori. As a little one my brother, two cousins and I along with mom and aunt traveled cross country to California. This was pre car airconditioning etc. Stopped at the great Salt Lake for a swim. Refreshed, we headed on through the desert not realizing that you needed to rinse off. The salt crystalized on all of us, we were grumpy and miserable.

BTW...next stop LA...drove through right though the WATTS riots with snipers on the highways. (my aunt was the lead driver and thought it would be cool to be there!)

Have to run to work but wanted to say hi!

[Mama_Bear]

Matter of fact, if you don't mind, I'm going to print your post to add some more tidbits to our meeting today.

No, I love it! Happy to be able to contribute to the children's pioneer experience. Baking bread sounds like fun!

BTW, how is your Beardie doing? Last I heard she was about to lay an egg and you were thinking she could be having some problems. Is she doing okay?

[FreeTheHostages]

Tough state to lose a cow in:

[Mama_Bear]

Happy Friday to you Meekie.

[Pippin]

Oh, Meekie!

Now you're "stealing" from BURKA MAN!

I'm gonna tell!LOL!

TOM! Meekie has your looney graphic!

NEENER!

[Mama_Bear]

Hi ductchess. Gosh that sounds like a very interesting trip across country. I remember the Watts riots. That is the last place I would have wanted to be. LOL.

I have seen the Great Salt Lake and the salt flats as we drove past on one of our trips across country. All I remember about it is how alien and forbidding the place looked. I can't help but think that I would have been more than a little disappointed after that long hard journey across the plains had I been with Brigham Young as his party crested the mountains east of what is now the Utah Valley and he proclaimed "this is the place". I'm sure the valley must have been beautiful and not at all like the nearby salt flats, still, I think I would have been envisioning something else....maybe palm trees and sandy beaches. LOL.

[iceskater]

Good morning all! It's beautiful here today. Busy day at work but it is Friday.

Free, it seems to me there's way more to life than being so wrapped up in yourself that figuring yourself out is the whole point. Seems kind of limiting to me.

Well, enough philosophizing for me today. Work is going good. My skating is going great. And my cats are my cats. What more can I ask for? LOL.

[iceskater]

BTW...next stop LA...drove through right though the WATTS riots with snipers on the highways. (my aunt was the lead driver and thought it would be cool to be there!)

I am old enough to remember the riots in Baltimore. I remember the tension and the curfews and how concerned my family was. My grandfather lost his business in all the destruction of the riots. Your aunt sounds amazing to go through all that in LA.

[FreeTheHostages]

Free, it seems to me there's way more to life than being so wrapped up in yourself that figuring yourself out is the whole point. Seems kind of limiting to me.

Yup, it could be worse than limiting. It could be downright frightening. After years of introspection, one could discover that one is someone who is basically too wrapped up in oneself!

[Mama_Bear]

Cloves and nutmeg were important seasonings . . . .

Apparently so, along with pepper! 1 lb cayenne pepper and 2 lbs black pepper? Seems like a lot of pepper to me. 1000 lbs of flour is an awful lot to be hauling along too, but I guess families could be fed on nothing but bread if need be.

[Mama_Bear]

Good morning Pippin. Still having computer problems at home? At least you do get to pop in occasionally from work, but we are used to seeing a whole lot more of you. Hope you can get on line at home soon.

[Calpernia]

Morning Free! Love that quote on the calendar today.

[Fiddlstix]

Good Morning Everybody.

You Know The Drill
Click the Pics J

Coffee & Donuts J

[Calpernia]

That is funny! Gizmo probably thought he was getting a chicken nugget for a snack :)

We will enjoy our reading day with the little ones. This is our 5th meeting of our bookclub my friend and I put together. It has grown! Have a great weekend if I miss you later on.

[Calpernia]

That's it! Making ribs tonight. Mooo mooo good!

Our jersey cow has the prettiest eyes!

[Calpernia]

Thank you! I kept the thread open while compiling my notes to make sure you didn't mind printing the thread.

I've been soaking Maya (my beardie) nightly in warm water. This is suppose to help if she is egg bound (as per the breader. She really seems to like it.

No eggs yet. She is still eating. This is my first go with lizard breeding. So it could be 'me' with first time mom syndrome. All I can do is hurry up and wait.

[iceskater]

Maybe those spices were good because they don't spoil as easily as something like dill or basil? Or were they used for trading perhaps? Not to mention being strong enough to mask the taste of not-so-good food.

100 pounds of flour doesn't sound like much if you think of a pound of flour per day to make bread each day. That's only a little over 3 months worth.

It took a brave person to venture forth into the unknown like that. It's pretty amazing when you think about what the pioneers had to overcome.