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Judge Bork, baptized at 76
U.S. News & World Report ^ | 7/22/03 | Paul Bedard With David LaGesse

Posted on 07/24/2003 11:31:43 AM PDT by nickcarraway

It may be a little late to start for most, but Robert Bork, the former Supreme Court nominee who has written books decrying the decline of Western culture, has just been baptized. Rev. C. John McCloskey, who represents the conservative and activist Opus Dei arm of the Roman Catholic Church and oversaw the baptism, said, "I can confirm that he was received in the Catholic Church." Bork, a scholar with the conservative American Enterprise Institute, was raised a Protestant and had called himself a "generic Protestant." He was known more for his conservative legal views, which some Democrats used to shoot down his court nomination during the Reagan administration.

In a brief interview, he said that years of "conversations and reading" led him to baptism at McCloskey's small Catholic Information Center chapel on K Street near the White House. "There's more to talk about than you can put in a brief story." He called himself a regular Catholic who attends Sunday mass, not an Opus Dei member.

He said talks with and recommendations from the priest, as well as attending church with his wife, Mary Ellen Bork, a former nun, helped pave the way to the ceremony.

Bork's sponsors were Kate O'Beirne, a conservative media star, and John O'Sullivan, head of UPI.

Lots of other prominent Catholics were there, such as columnist and speechwriter Peggy Noonan, herself a convert.

McCloskey has made several other high-level conversions of conservatives, bringing into the Catholic Church conservative columnist Robert Novak and Republican Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas.

The best part of getting baptized at 76, said Bork: "If you get baptized at my age, all of your sins are forgiven. And that's very helpful."

According to Archdiocese of Washington Communications Director Susan Gibbs, Msgr. William Awalt, the longtime pastor of the Borks, baptized the judge, confirmed him and gave him First Communion. Father McCloskey celebrated the Mass, along with Msgr. Peter Vaghi, pastor of St. Patrick's.


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To: nickcarraway; american colleen; sinkspur; livius; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; ...
Welcome Home, Judge Bork! ping ...
21 posted on 07/24/2003 12:16:05 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: nickcarraway
As a Protestant, I of course wish he'd stuck with his upbringing. Neverthless, I celebrate with him in his decision for Christ. God bless him.
22 posted on 07/24/2003 12:17:16 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God and country)
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To: Wallace T.
Werlcome Judge Bork. I love you man. This thing is a MARKET SHARE thing. Catholics are up to cature lost market share to the protestants. Score one for the Catholics.
23 posted on 07/24/2003 12:18:41 PM PDT by philosofy123
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To: nickcarraway
It's never too late! Praise the Lord!
24 posted on 07/24/2003 12:18:54 PM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Coleus
Wow!
25 posted on 07/24/2003 12:20:26 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: nickcarraway
Didn't Dick Morris convert also?
26 posted on 07/24/2003 12:20:38 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Fred Mertz
The Opus Dei prelature has several levels of participation.

There are the Opus Dei clergy, known as the Priestly Fraternity of the Holy Cross; numeraries - laypersons who are celibate, full-time workers in Opus Dei; supernumeraries, laypersons who are generally married or who plan to marry and who live in the workaday world; and cooperators, who are not necessarily even Catholic and not really members of the prelature.

Freeh and Hansen were supernumeraries if they were actual members. They may just have been cooperators. No news article I've seen makes it clear.

27 posted on 07/24/2003 12:20:54 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: ThomasMore
"It's never too late!"

Unless you're a Jewish convert. Oooooh, that can't be too pleasant.

28 posted on 07/24/2003 12:21:19 PM PDT by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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To: bethelgrad
The thing is - he may not have had much of an upbringing. His folks may have been just nominal Christians.
29 posted on 07/24/2003 12:22:37 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Ann Archy
U.S. Senator Brownback and Commentator Dick Morris Join Catholic Church
30 posted on 07/24/2003 12:24:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Wallace T.
All baptisms of water in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are considered valid by the Catholic Church whether administered by the Catholics or not.

I know Reformed Christians who were raised Christian but not baptized until their late teens or early twenties - their feeling was that they shouldn't be baptized until they really experienced being born again.

If Bork belonged to such a denomination, and fell away from churchgoing as a young man, it's possible that he was never baptized.

31 posted on 07/24/2003 12:26:29 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Wallace T.
The Catholic church recognizes baptisms performed by Protestant churches. If Bork was a "generic" protestant, chances are he never got around to being baptized. It is not an uncommon occurence.
32 posted on 07/24/2003 12:27:16 PM PDT by k omalley
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To: AD from SpringBay
The Catholic Church does not normally baptize by aspersion.
33 posted on 07/24/2003 12:27:51 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: nickcarraway
"..Lots of other prominent Catholics were there, such as columnist and speechwriter Peggy Noonan, herself a convert,,,"

Is Peggy Noonan really a convert? Can anyone confirm this? I can find no reference to her conversion on the web.

34 posted on 07/24/2003 12:32:44 PM PDT by irish_links
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To: Wallace T.
"does the Catholic Church not recognize the legitimacy of his prior baptism?"

It did when my wife and I became Catholics nine years ago. As we both had been baptised as children in our parents' Protestant denominations (Presbyterian and Congregational), our priest brought us into the Church with us reciting the Nicene Creed in a small, private ceremony. A wonderful, grace-filled day!

35 posted on 07/24/2003 12:35:34 PM PDT by Reo
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To: AD from SpringBay
And just because you are sprinkled doesn't mean you are baptised

Did the article say he was sprinkled?

36 posted on 07/24/2003 12:36:04 PM PDT by al_c
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To: sinkspur
Although Bork is a judge, and Ito is (or was) a judge, so I guess there is a tenuous connection.

Despite the error in threads, I love it! LOL!

37 posted on 07/24/2003 12:37:20 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: All
Hot-diggety-dog!

A post on what should be good news is now turned into a back-and-forth between Catholics and Protestants! The flames should be coming soon.

If only there were some mention that Bork was a Mason or a Knight of Columbus, then the action could really get going!

38 posted on 07/24/2003 12:37:55 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Wallace T.
Great news! Welcome home, Judge Bork!

NB: The Catholic Church recognizes all Christian baptisms, whether performed by Protestant, Orthodox, or Evangelical clergy, as long as these are valid in form (trinitarian) and matter (water).

Valid baptisms perfomed by laymen and even non-Christians are also recognized, believe it or not!

I was baptized as an teenager in an Assemblies of God church. When I was reconciled to the Catholic Church, our priest declined to perform another baptism, since my "Evangelical baptism" was done in the name of the Holy Trinity and was thus completely valid. When serious doubt exists as to the validity or correct performance of a previous baptism, a bishop will sometimes authorize a "conditional" Catholic baptism (i.e. "just in case"), but this is rare; the Evangelical church where I was originally baptized didn't even record my baptism, but its validity was accepted by the Church upon my word alone, with the option of obtaining testimony of witnesses (which they did not ask for).

40 posted on 07/24/2003 12:42:25 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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