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To: MissAmericanPie
"We need another party and fast."

No, we don't. The whole 3rd Party spiel is designed to syphon Conservative voters away from Republicans long-enough for Democrats to win more elections.

That's why the **largest** two donors to the Alabama Libertarian Party are Democratic trial lawyers.

Lenin used the phrase "useful idiots" to describe the way such "conservatives" could be duped into stabbing their own kind.

So Olney has less than 1,500 people now? The last time that I was there it was a thriving oil town. I suspect that it still is, too. Those are some tough Texans there.

Did you ever see the two crooks from Olney Savings go to jail for killing that S&L back in the 1980's?

Well, I saw it.

But back to the subject at hand, my point was that you were posting nonsense that had the sole aim of taking a gratuitous swipe at Republicans.

To wit: you **claimed** that Republicans wanted to actively erase our sovereign borders.

To refute that claim, I pointed out that the Republicans would **not** have killed the globalists' wet dreams of their Kyoto Global Warming Treaty, the International Criminal court, and the U.S. - CCCP ABM treaty if they were truly interested in erasing sovereign borders.

If you have to post such border-erasing fabrications in order to make your own argument look compelling, then at heart your argument probably isn't compelling at all.

Something to think about.

166 posted on 08/03/2003 1:12:14 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
"I pointed out that the Republicans would **not** have killed the globalists' wet dreams of their Kyoto Global Warming Treaty, the International Criminal court, and the U.S. - CCCP ABM treaty if they were truly interested in erasing sovereign borders."

Wake up, please? Kyoto protects the big business's moving American jobs offshore, by the time our manufacturing and industry base is long gone how much difference will Kyoto make to us anyway?

And before you get too happy about the ICC, in case you didn't notice only politicians and the military are exempted from the reach of this court, not you and me. Just because a cell door hasn't slammed on your rear yet doesn't guarantee a thing about the future for people who speak up.

Both parties are neck deep in strip mining the USofA and it's native born citizens.

168 posted on 08/03/2003 1:25:29 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Southack
The whole 3rd Party spiel is designed to syphon Conservative voters away from Republicans long-enough for Democrats to win more elections.

Not necessarily. When the two major parties cease to be a check and balance on each other with regard to this or that issue, the threat of a third party insurrection is sometimes the only means of chastising one's own party, and evoking in party leaders for certain constituencies.

It's not a card that should be played frivolously, or often, but it certainly has utility.

When leaders of either major party ignore the prospects of a third party insurrection, and end up losing elections, they have only the myopia of their own vision to blame.


174 posted on 08/03/2003 1:38:20 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Dump Davis)
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To: Southack
" and evoking in party leaders for certain constituencies." should read...

" and evoking in party leaders appropriate respect for certain constituencies."


175 posted on 08/03/2003 1:40:39 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Dump Davis)
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